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Re: Copycat | Copycat https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41001.msg508020#msg508020
« Reply #12 on: June 05, 2012, 05:35:47 pm »
Nice idea, but it is too similar to Mindgate for my taste... The playing cost should be also higher (it can target anything, even cards in your opponent's hand, so it's effect is much more powerful than Mindgate).
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Re: Copycat | Copycat https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41001.msg508280#msg508280
« Reply #13 on: June 06, 2012, 12:21:54 pm »
I agree that it should cost more for duplicating cards... what about 5 :aether? Will it be too expensive? or 4 :aether?

I'm talking about the unup version, the up version would be unup - 1  :aether...

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Re: Copycat | Copycat https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41001.msg508295#msg508295
« Reply #14 on: June 06, 2012, 01:03:08 pm »
For a a pun the upped could be called Dupli'cat.
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Re: Copycat | Copycat https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41001.msg508307#msg508307
« Reply #15 on: June 06, 2012, 01:19:44 pm »
For a a pun the upped could be called Dupli'cat.

THIS  :P :P

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I just wanted to create one more way to get more than 6 copies of a card, especially for spells and permanents.

problem, yes?
Red = How do you target the spells?
or is it that you can only copy cards from your hand?
or cards you can see? or cards in play?
which is it?
one of them?
or a combination?

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Re: Copycat | Copycat https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41001.msg508313#msg508313
« Reply #16 on: June 06, 2012, 01:38:47 pm »
For a a pun the upped could be called Dupli'cat.

THIS  :P :P

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I just wanted to create one more way to get more than 6 copies of a card, especially for spells and permanents.

problem, yes?
Red = How do you target the spells?
or is it that you can only copy cards from your hand?
or cards you can see? or cards in play?
which is it?
one of them?
or a combination?

 :electrum

Target the card in your hand and your opponent's hand, when it's visible.

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Re: Copycat | Copycat https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41001.msg508315#msg508315
« Reply #17 on: June 06, 2012, 01:41:03 pm »
Cool card, and I love the art.

Here are the other 'cat' ideas from the past:

Glad to see so many idea with the copycat~ I like Cheshire Cat the most in that list, it's cool.

I just got another idea, what if we make it that way:

At the start, Copycat get like 3|3, and for each copy, it gains -1/-1
To avoid OP.... and make it more fun to play?
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Re: Copycat | Copycat https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41001.msg508317#msg508317
« Reply #18 on: June 06, 2012, 01:44:10 pm »
For a a pun the upped could be called Dupli'cat.

Good idea! I would change it with the next revision  :)

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Re: Copycat | Copycat https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41001.msg508326#msg508326
« Reply #19 on: June 06, 2012, 02:28:09 pm »
well since it's an aether card you can easyly quint it result to an unkillable copymachine for dim shields for example, OP for aether IMO, also the test say"...of the target card", i'd will say permanent 'cause also creatures are cards.
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Re: Copycat | Copycat https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41001.msg508332#msg508332
« Reply #20 on: June 06, 2012, 03:04:05 pm »
well since it's an aether card you can easyly quint it result to an unkillable copymachine for dim shields for example, OP for aether IMO, also the test say"...of the target card", i'd will say permanent 'cause also creatures are cards.

I see your points... It's aether simple because it feels like aether... like fractal and duality... in its function.

And it can target all the cards, including permanents, spells and creatures as long as they are in hand.

To make it less powerful, I'm thinking about making it more vulnerable as its life decrease every time you use the "copy" skill. Therefore, even if it was immaterial, it would die soon. And to use blessing / heal /... to keep it alive, you should not make it immaterial.

How about that?
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Re: Copycat | Copycat https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41001.msg508333#msg508333
« Reply #21 on: June 06, 2012, 03:12:35 pm »
To make it less powerful, I'm thinking about making it more vulnerable as its life decrease every time you use the "copy" skill. Therefore, even if it was immaterial, it would die soon. And to use blessing / heal /... to keep it alive, you should not make it immaterial.

How about that?
i like this solution but i'm kinda skeptical that will ever exist a card that can make a copy of everything.
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Re: Copycat | Dupli'cat https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41001.msg508365#msg508365
« Reply #22 on: June 06, 2012, 05:04:41 pm »
Made an update to change the name and add the -1/-1 feature.

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Re: Copycat | Copycat https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41001.msg508369#msg508369
« Reply #23 on: June 06, 2012, 05:19:34 pm »
I agree that it should cost more for duplicating cards... what about 5 :aether? Will it be too expensive? or 4 :aether?

I'm talking about the unup version, the up version would be unup - 1  :aether...
Considering the limited hitpoints on the card and the -1|-1 cost for using the ability. Since it targets cards in hands it is quite distinct from mindgate. While this makes it more flexible the trade off is that, being a creature rather than a permanent, it will be much easier to counter than mindgate. Even if you cast quint on it, it still has to deal with shields and will eventually kill itself off if overused... compare that to enchanted mindgate which is unstoppable short of quanta denial. I think it is fairly well balanced as it is.

Odd question: if the card is healed to keep it from dying, will its attack start to go negative if the ability keeps getting used.
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