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Chaotic Pact | Chaotic Pact https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33526.msg422938#msg422938
« on: November 09, 2011, 09:17:55 pm »
NAME:
Chaotic Pact
ELEMENT:
Entropy
COST:
6 :entropy
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
Pact: whenever you play a creature from hand, you can chaos seed 1 specific and 1 random target. Lasts 3 turns.
NAME:
Chaotic Pact
ELEMENT:
Entropy
COST:
5 :entropy
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
Pact: whenever you play a creature from hand, you can chaos seed 1 specific and 1 random target. Lasts 3 turns.
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NOTES:
Pact: if you have an other pact into play, when you play Chaotic Pact, previous pact is destroyed. If a pact is stolen or destroyed by opponent, you lose 15 HP's. Stealing doesn't restart turns countdown. So obviously Chaotic Pact isn't stackable you can't have two Pacts in play). When you play a creature, you must decide in that time if you want to chaos seed a creature: if you decide to don't chaos seed anything, Chaotic Pact's ability doesn't activate. If you decide to chaos seed a creature, you cannot stop the random chaos seed. First you choose the specific target, then a random target will be chaos seed. The creature you have just played is targetable by Chaotic Pact's ability. If there are only untargetable creatures, the ability doesn't activate. See other pacts here:
Chronos Pact (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,33524.0.html)
Death Pact (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,33527.0.html)
Stormy Pact (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,34024.0.html)
Druidic Pact (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,33532.0.html)
Arctic Pact (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,33533.0.html)
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Re: Chaos pact https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33526.msg422987#msg422987
« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2011, 11:22:27 pm »
I'dd say the upgraded version is a bit expensive on  :entropy
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Re: Chaos pact https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33526.msg422989#msg422989
« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2011, 11:29:44 pm »
I'dd say the upgraded version is a bit expensive on  :entropy
actually the ammount of :entropy required is quit resonable comppaired to the effect of the card

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Re: Chaos pact https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33526.msg423002#msg423002
« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2011, 12:10:23 am »
I'dd say the upgraded version is a bit expensive on  :entropy
actually the ammount of :entropy required is quit resonable comppaired to the effect of the card
True, and remember that  :entropy can summon Micro Abominations and Lycanthropes/Werewolves for a quite low cost... So this is like a lot of Chaos Seed/Chaos Power. Anyways, it may be too slow, and the targetting system... IDK if it can be implemented, nor I understand how you mean it to work. I guess you mean it's as you have just clicked the Chaos Seed/Chaos Power card, so you have the "cancel" button there, but you should explain it better.
PS: it needs something to do when it stacks, maybe even make it stackable, since it's not cheap at all...

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Re: Chaos pact https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33526.msg423167#msg423167
« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2011, 08:55:23 am »
I'dd say the upgraded version is a bit expensive on  :entropy
actually the ammount of :entropy required is quit resonable comppaired to the effect of the card
True, and remember that  :entropy can summon Micro Abominations and Lycanthropes/Werewolves for a quite low cost... So this is like a lot of Chaos Seed/Chaos Power. Anyways, it may be too slow, and the targetting system... IDK if it can be implemented, nor I understand how you mean it to work. I guess you mean it's as you have just clicked the Chaos Seed/Chaos Power card, so you have the "cancel" button there, but you should explain it better.
PS: it needs something to do when it stacks, maybe even make it stackable, since it's not cheap at all...
Yes, ability activation is like you have just played chaos seed (power). Aslo in Chronos pact and Arctic pact is the same. I think that pacts cannot be stackable, because there will be problems with implementation: you cannot activate more than one spell (in this case chaos seed) at the same time. UP version could cost  6 :entropy , I think.

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Re: Chaos pact https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33526.msg423168#msg423168
« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2011, 08:56:40 am »
I don't think this type of cards will be ever playable just because fractal exist. it make this way too OP
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Re: Chaos pact https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33526.msg423178#msg423178
« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2011, 09:20:31 am »
I don't think this type of cards will be ever playable just because fractal exist. it make this way too OP
and if the Chaos pact lasts 4 (or 5) turns? I think I could do the same with Chronos pact, Arctic pact. Death pact could last 3 and 4 turns.
This reduces card advantage, and you cannot fractal so many times (usually not more than two).

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Re: Chaos pact https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33526.msg423185#msg423185
« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2011, 09:35:39 am »
Oh yeah I didn't think about it but it is actually a good idea. Very good idea !
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Re: Chaos pact https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33526.msg423188#msg423188
« Reply #8 on: November 10, 2011, 09:42:49 am »
Oh yeah I didn't think about it but it is actually a good idea. Very good idea !
Thanks! and what about the other pacts (modified as I have written before)?

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Re: Chaos pact https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33526.msg423189#msg423189
« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2011, 09:51:04 am »
The time seems still a bit OP.
Death pact is good, maybe 2 counter is a little too much.. but with only 3 turns it looks good.
druidic seems fine.
night pact can be really stupid.. If you fractal a death or darkness creature every copy will give +1/+1 to every other.
I'm fine with arctic pact
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Re: Chaos pact https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33526.msg423191#msg423191
« Reply #10 on: November 10, 2011, 09:59:14 am »
The time seems still a bit OP.
night pact can be really stupid.. If you fractal a death or darkness creature every copy will give +1/+1 to every other.
Thanks!  I agree with you about night pact, I will modify it. Why do you think chronos pact is still OP? Also with modifies (lasts 4 turns)?

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Re: Chaos pact https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33526.msg423194#msg423194
« Reply #11 on: November 10, 2011, 10:06:14 am »
Becuase if your opponent have say 3/4 creature on the field just playing the pact and a fractal or just creatures from your hand will totally kill your opponent
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