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Chaotic Force | Entropic Force https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13582.msg171016#msg171016
« on: October 05, 2010, 03:39:07 am »
NAME:
Chaotic Force
ELEMENT:
Entropy
COST:
1 :entropy
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
0 | 0
TEXT:
:entropy :entropy: Chaos Power
NAME:
Entropic Force
ELEMENT:
Entropy
COST:
1 :entropy
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
0 | 0
TEXT:
:entropy: Chaos Power
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Pretty self explanatory.
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0 HP Series! (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,14770.0.html)

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It looks simple, but it's actually quite a deep mechanic.
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Re: Mysterious Force | Chaotic Force https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13582.msg171028#msg171028
« Reply #1 on: October 05, 2010, 03:59:55 am »
Not sure on how OP it is as unupped, Mono-Entropy can't keep this alive (I guess). Though upped, Mono-Entropy has Chaos Power...

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Re: Mysterious Force | Chaotic Force https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13582.msg171149#msg171149
« Reply #2 on: October 05, 2010, 10:25:16 am »
Is this a creature or a permanent?
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Re: Mysterious Force | Chaotic Force https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13582.msg171228#msg171228
« Reply #3 on: October 05, 2010, 02:29:17 pm »
It is a Creature

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Re: Mysterious Force | Chaotic Force https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13582.msg171273#msg171273
« Reply #4 on: October 05, 2010, 04:53:14 pm »
I was under the impression that 0 Def creatures go away at the end of the turn.  Is that the idea here?  To force you to use something else with it; to keep it alive long enough to use it?  Otherwise, perhaps 0|1 might be the way to go....

Please, correct me if I'm wrong about the 0 def. creatures!   :)

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Re: Mysterious Force | Chaotic Force https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13582.msg171283#msg171283
« Reply #5 on: October 05, 2010, 05:05:41 pm »
Nope, that's correct. The idea is that you have to buff it for it to be any good. So, an average of +2.5|+2.5 on any targeted creature for 1 :entropy from a creature you need to buff and probably will want to quint. Sounds fair to me. Some games, this will be really awesome when the +5|+5's start racking up, and that'll be a lot of fun.

Not so sure about the balance when we consider Fractal, however. That could turn into an almost indestructible army of veeery hard hitters rather quickly. Then again, you'll need to have a couple buffed ones out already to make that work. Still, maybe a cost of 3 :entropy to summon would be safest.
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Re: Mysterious Force | Chaotic Force https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13582.msg171331#msg171331
« Reply #6 on: October 05, 2010, 06:47:41 pm »
If you fractal it, you just get a lot of 0|0s.
Even if you do base a fractal deck around this, you need quite a few turns to set up before fractal is worth it.
I think it's fair as it is, but if I get more people saying it should cost more, I could change it.

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Re: Mysterious Force | Chaotic Force https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13582.msg171394#msg171394
« Reply #7 on: October 05, 2010, 08:19:44 pm »
Hence why I said you need a couple buffed ones out already. Not a big problem, but slows it down enough that it's not obviously OP. Hard to say without testing it, but I follow the rule of rather risk being UP than OP, as zanz does.
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Re: Mysterious Force | Chaotic Force https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13582.msg171399#msg171399
« Reply #8 on: October 05, 2010, 08:22:46 pm »
It should cost 1 :entropy.  Its a very nice card, I'd love to make a fun army out of this.

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Re: Mysterious Force | Chaotic Force https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13582.msg171402#msg171402
« Reply #9 on: October 05, 2010, 08:27:52 pm »
Okay, I guess I'll change the cost to 1 :entropy.
Oh, and I guess Chaotic Force/Entropic force would be better? =D
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Re: Mysterious Force | Chaotic Force https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13582.msg171407#msg171407
« Reply #10 on: October 05, 2010, 08:32:57 pm »
Just noticed, the cost for the ability, it should be the same for the upped and unupped.  I'm not sure if it should be 2  :entropy  or 1 :entropy though.

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Re: Mysterious Force | Chaotic Force https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13582.msg171414#msg171414
« Reply #11 on: October 05, 2010, 08:41:55 pm »
Well, growth is 1, but this is mono?
I think I'll make the ability cost go down when it's upped, and just keep both play costs 1 :entropy.
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