Bomb | Explosive

[AngeDeMort]

NAME: Bomb ELEMENT: Fire COST: 3 TYPE: Creature ATK|HP: 0|15 TEXT: Explodes after awhile dealing 10 damage to the holder.   Plant: Give this card to your opponent.	NAME: Explosive ELEMENT: Fire COST: 4 TYPE: Creature ATK|HP: 0|15 TEXT: Explodes after awhile dealing 20 damage to the holder.   Plant: Give this card to your opponent.

ART: http://www.sxc.hu/photo/1215481 IDEA: AngeDeMort NOTES: This is a more serious rework of my previous idea Hot Potato (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,23678.0.html). When the card explodes is determined by a random number of turns between 2 and 5. The upped version should be a random turn between 3 and 5 for greater chance it explodes on your opponent. As an example lets say the number of turns is 3. First turn you play the card but can't use it's skill due to the delay, second turn is your opponent going about their business, third turn is you planting the bomb on their field which then explodes at the end of the turn. If the number was 2 it would have exploded on your field and if it was 4 your opponent could have given it back assuming they had  quanta The explosion is a passive and the plant is an active. SERIES:

[agogo]

I like your idea! Esp. with the  plant, but the wording could be changed to Bomb explodes after X-Y turns OR if the card gets killed somehow, which i think would be more convenient in terms of programming. If this card was to move on, there would be a number in the top left corner wouldn't there, like sundial.
This card is seriously nerfed because it takes a while to explode while costing a heap of quanta. Note that this is a creature and can easily be frozen. Numbers on the top left aren't associated with creatures...

Maybe a buff is needed
Bomb 4
Deals 10 damage when killed.  Give to opponent
0|5

Explosive 5
Deals 20 damage when killed.  Give to opponent
0|5

[TuckingFypo]

Maybe a buff is needed
Bomb 4
Deals 10 damage when killed.  Give to opponent
0|5

Explosive 5
Deals 20 damage when killed.  Give to opponent
0|5

I think that this would be much more practical, but I also think it's still UP.  You're paying 4/5  quanta+ 1  quanta(duo)+the quanta for whatever method you used to kill it for...10|20 damage.  Other cards are much more quanta efficient.

[Wonder]

I think you should have it explode in a set amount of turns. 3 or 4 sounds pretty good to me.
This also looks pretty balanced as it is.
Great idea

[AngeDeMort]

I like your idea! Esp. with the  plant, but the wording could be changed to Bomb explodes after X-Y turns OR if the card gets killed somehow, which i think would be more convenient in terms of programming.

Thanks reworking the wording might make it more understandable but for the killing of it I designed it so it wouldn't be easily taken out in 1 or 2 turns since killing a bomb would be like defusing it making it useless and if I added this on in addition to the countdown as you suggested there would be more programming associated with this card rather than less.

This card is seriously nerfed because it takes a while to explode while costing a heap of quanta. Note that this is a creature and can easily be frozen. Numbers on the top left aren't associated with creatures...

It takes at most 5 turns to deal 10 damage for 4  + 1  . Looking at fire bolt it cost 3  to deal 3 damage + 3 more for every 10  you have. So to deal close to the same damage bomb does you'd have to save up 20  which would take a bit, since you'd be playing creatures in the process, something like 3-4 turns

Other cards are much more quanta efficient.

They might be more quanta efficient but they take time to build up the quanta needed (such as fire bolt), they require more quanta to deal about the same damage (crimson dragon), or they require a similar amount of time to deal the same about of damage (fire spirit and lava golem). So really this card allows the user to deal a large amount of damage for a relatively small amount of quanta, and it has a chance to work faster than other fire cards, the drawback is it might back fire.

[Newbiecake]

This card should not be a creature IMO. A permanent would suit it more.

I think the ability should be changed to:  " Throw: Place this card in your opponent's permanent slot." It is much more logical this way; the ability doesn't really fit darkness.

[TheIdioticIdiot]

UP...
less cost...
3/4
or even 2/3 wouldn't be considered OP

[AngeDeMort]

This card should not be a creature IMO. A permanent would suit it more.

I think the ability should be changed to:  " Throw: Place this card in your opponent's permanent slot." It is much more logical this way; the ability doesn't really fit darkness.

Making this card a permanent would make it to hard to kill/manipulate since as of right now the only elements that are capable of destroying a permanent that's not a pillar or weapon is    and    and with that  's is pointless with this card because why would you want to steal a card that might explode on you, and  only countering  seems ... redundant.

with regards to the skill being  I think  fits better with a bomb since bombs/explosives are generally placed somewhere and then set off, and setting a trap of sorts seems to fit  better

UP...
less cost...
3/4
or even 2/3 wouldn't be considered OP

Since I'm getting a lot of this I'll put up a poll

[Leo]

But... but... the potato, man.. wasn't it serious enough? D;

[AngeDeMort]

Alright it's been a couple days and the (small number of) people have spoken, the cost is now 3|4. Opinions?

[Kuroaitou]

CURATOR COMMENT
-Replace the '/' or slash symbol with a 'pipe' or divider symbol, '|', to separate the ATK|HP values in the table

[AngeDeMort]

CURATOR COMMENT
-Replace the '/' or slash symbol with a 'pipe' or divider symbol, '|', to separate the ATK|HP values in the table

done should I resubmit to crucible?