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Bee Hive | Killer Bee Hive (Rare) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51797.msg1103646#msg1103646
« on: October 16, 2013, 06:28:47 pm »
NAME:
Bee Hive
ELEMENT:
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COST:
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TYPE:
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ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Produces :life per bee you own each turn. Spawn four bees if destroyed.
:air : Spawn a bee.
NAME:
Killer Bee Hive
ELEMENT:
Life
COST:
9 :life
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Produces :life per killer bee you own each turn. Spawn three killer bees if destroyed.
:air :air :air : Spawn a killer bee.

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NAME:
Bee Hive
ELEMENT:
Life
COST:
8 :life
TYPE:
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ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Produces one :life quantum per Bee you own
:air : Bee Hive
Spawn a Bee
NAME:
Killer Bee Hive
ELEMENT:
Life
COST:
9 :life
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Produces one :life quantum per Killer Bee you own
:air :air :air : Killer Bee Hive
Spawn a Killer Bee

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This card is intended as a rare life card that is used to create Bees and Killer Bees:
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« Last Edit: October 16, 2013, 08:45:30 pm by OdinVanguard »
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Re: Bee Hive | Killer Bee Hive (Rare) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51797.msg1103651#msg1103651
« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2013, 06:40:39 pm »
A rare card that generates large swarms of smaller creatures that need a different quanta to use the new creatures ability... wonder where that idea came from  :P

I'm guessing Bee|Killer Bee would be released as a common card along with this? Balancing the quanta to use the sting might be a tad tricky. Soul catcher with the unupped to create more :death per sacrifice sounds good. SoPa for the upped for some pretty strong repeatable CC. Does the ability target just creatures or can it target your opponent directly? That would make it more useful.
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Re: Bee Hive | Killer Bee Hive (Rare) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51797.msg1103663#msg1103663
« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2013, 07:12:33 pm »
Quote from: eljoemo on October 16, 2013, 06:40:39 pm
A rare card that generates large swarms of smaller creatures that need a different quanta to use the new creatures ability... wonder where that idea came from  :P

I'm guessing Bee|Killer Bee would be released as a common card along with this? Balancing the quanta to use the sting might be a tad tricky. Soul catcher with the unupped to create more :death per sacrifice sounds good. SoPa for the upped for some pretty strong repeatable CC. Does the ability target just creatures or can it target your opponent directly? That would make it more useful.
The ability can target players as well. That should set it apart from other poison mechanic abilities right now.

I was thinking of having no cost on the bee abilities, but that seemed a little too OP given that they can be spammed very easily. I figured the forced duo / trio is a fairly small price to pay for a versatile poison ability.

I wanted the hive to be a rare because you can easily get by with even just 1 per deck (like pharaoh).
« Last Edit: October 16, 2013, 07:15:27 pm by OdinVanguard »
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Re: Bee Hive | Killer Bee Hive (Rare) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51797.msg1103671#msg1103671
« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2013, 07:33:49 pm »
This seems awfully similar to my bee idea as well...
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Re: Bee Hive | Killer Bee Hive (Rare) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51797.msg1103675#msg1103675
« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2013, 07:38:46 pm »
Quote from: Drake_XIV on October 16, 2013, 07:33:49 pm
This seems awfully similar to my bee idea as well...
As well?
Well, yours are also similar to most other bee ideas I've seen on the forum as well...
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Re: Bee Hive | Killer Bee Hive (Rare) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51797.msg1103689#msg1103689
« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2013, 08:28:01 pm »
An Addition I would like to see: Upon destruction of the Beehive 3 Bees are immediately created on your side.
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Re: Bee Hive | Killer Bee Hive (Rare) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51797.msg1103690#msg1103690
« Reply #6 on: October 16, 2013, 08:30:11 pm »
Quote from: kaempfer13 on October 16, 2013, 08:28:01 pm
An Addition I would like to see: Upon destruction of the Beehive 3 Bees are immediately created on your side.
Hmm... I like that. I'll have to see if I can get it to fit.
New version is up. Let me know what you think.
« Last Edit: October 16, 2013, 08:48:39 pm by OdinVanguard »
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Re: Bee Hive | Killer Bee Hive (Rare) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51797.msg1103699#msg1103699
« Reply #7 on: October 16, 2013, 09:02:52 pm »
Is the whole idea supposed to make you use 3 different types of quanta?
Life: The type of the cards
Air: Spawning bees
Death: Bees' skill
Still, I like the idea, and the question above is the only one that comes to mind.
« Last Edit: October 16, 2013, 09:04:25 pm by grimdragon64 »
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Re: Bee Hive | Killer Bee Hive (Rare) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51797.msg1103705#msg1103705
« Reply #8 on: October 16, 2013, 09:32:48 pm »
Quote from: grimdragon64 on October 16, 2013, 09:02:52 pm
Is the whole idea supposed to make you use 3 different types of quanta?
Life: The type of the cards
Air: Spawning bees
Death: Bees' skill
Still, I like the idea, and the question above is the only one that comes to mind.
Yes, they are supposed to promote a particular trio, but still be useful in a duos.
I.e. the bee card works in :death / :life well (particularly if you throw in mitosis and soul catchers) and the hive can be useful in an :air / :life deck even without any :death quanta for bee skill.
« Last Edit: October 16, 2013, 09:34:24 pm by OdinVanguard »
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Re: Bee Hive | Killer Bee Hive (Rare) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51797.msg1133129#msg1133129
« Reply #9 on: April 15, 2014, 05:09:20 pm »
Why Bee|Killer Bee is crucibled as a completely different card and not like a sub-card of Bee Hive | Killer Bee Hive? :-\
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Re: Bee Hive | Killer Bee Hive (Rare) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51797.msg1133681#msg1133681
« Reply #10 on: April 20, 2014, 06:38:55 am »
Quote from: ARTHANASIOS on April 15, 2014, 05:09:20 pm
Why Bee|Killer Bee is crucibled as a completely different card and not like a sub-card of Bee Hive | Killer Bee Hive? :-\
I thought Bee / Killer Bee would make a good creature card in its own right
i.e. its a way to give people the option to vote on the "Bee | Killer Bee" as an individual addition without the hive. (like FFQ and Firefly are 2 different cards)
So, depending on whether one, the other, or both make it says something different.
I.e. Hive makes it but not the bee - Its a good idea to make it like aflatoxin where bee cannot be included individually but is only available via hive.
If only bee makes it, then no hive.
If both make it through the polls, then both are good ideas.
(and if neither makes it then its kind of a moot point :P )
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Re: Bee Hive | Killer Bee Hive (Rare) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51797.msg1133712#msg1133712
« Reply #11 on: April 20, 2014, 03:05:37 pm »
A permanent that spams creatures, I like it. Fits well in the life element both game wise and thematically. 4 stars.
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