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Re: Ancient Doorway | Ancient Gate https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19941.msg254046#msg254046
« Reply #24 on: January 22, 2011, 09:14:54 am »
I still say it's OP with quinted key. Why not have it spawn 3 cards called "key" with 33% chance to destroy the shield when removed from play, or some other thing where even the user has no clue which one is the real key.

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Re: Ancient Doorway | Ancient Gate https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19941.msg254067#msg254067
« Reply #25 on: January 22, 2011, 12:34:51 pm »
Maybe the keys can't be targeted by your spells?

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Re: Ancient Doorway | Ancient Gate https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19941.msg254415#msg254415
« Reply #26 on: January 22, 2011, 07:11:50 pm »
"All keys are invisible to their owner"? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
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Re: Ancient Doorway | Ancient Gate https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19941.msg255492#msg255492
« Reply #27 on: January 23, 2011, 08:59:38 pm »
If you cant destroy quinted key, can you still destroy gate?

That would be ok...

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Re: Ancient Doorway | Ancient Gate https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19941.msg255494#msg255494
« Reply #28 on: January 23, 2011, 09:00:21 pm »
unless gate is also protected.
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Re: Ancient Doorway | Ancient Gate https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19941.msg255976#msg255976
« Reply #29 on: January 24, 2011, 06:11:26 am »
a 3-card trio combo just for 4 damage reduction? sorry, but i'll stick with rol/hope.

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Re: Ancient Doorway | Ancient Gate https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19941.msg256047#msg256047
« Reply #30 on: January 24, 2011, 10:17:12 am »
what if your board is full?
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Re: Ancient Doorway | Ancient Gate https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19941.msg256065#msg256065
« Reply #31 on: January 24, 2011, 10:44:35 am »
what if your board is full?
Then, like most cards (deja vu) they will disappear into nothingness and you'll have to destroy the shield with permanent control.

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Re: Ancient Doorway | Ancient Gate https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19941.msg256074#msg256074
« Reply #32 on: January 24, 2011, 11:04:25 am »
what if your board is full?
Then, like most cards (deja vu) they will disappear into nothingness and you'll have to destroy the shield with permanent control.
so a full board plus protect artifact equals a permanent -4 damage from each creature

well i guess a full board is difficult anyway
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Re: Ancient Doorway | Ancient Gate https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19941.msg256104#msg256104
« Reply #33 on: January 24, 2011, 12:28:14 pm »
If they disappear, that means that Ancient Key isn't on the field. Ancient Gate would automatically be destroyed. This card's weaknesses balance the cost in my opinion. Normally, a 4 defence shield would cost between 9 and 10, but this shield's ability causes that to lower in value.
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Re: Ancient Doorway | Ancient Gate https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19941.msg256108#msg256108
« Reply #34 on: January 24, 2011, 12:33:24 pm »
Just to reiterate, wouldn't the the real key be needed to come onto the field first to make sure the shield stays up? Nevermind if the keys look alike, three creatures cannot be spawned at the same time if they occupy three different spaces. So, technically, the opponent can follow which one the real key is by finding out which slot the next creature was supposed to come into, assuming, of course, the shield has a 100% chance of staying up on your turn since the real key will make it out onto the field first then followed by the fake ones.

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Re: Ancient Doorway | Ancient Gate https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19941.msg256111#msg256111
« Reply #35 on: January 24, 2011, 12:36:59 pm »
It can be coded so that 3 creatures can be spawned instantly and at the same time, in a random order. It doesn't have to follow a direct order.
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