~Round 1 - Deckbuilding and Strategy

[Antagon]

testing steamies now against different gravity deck, might me an option (cc inside, large def creatures, cc with squids against eventual flying titans, but weak to catapults then (more dmg when frozen), but maybe the 3 deflags are enough?

[Jocko]

3 deflags are enough for catapults, i think. But then, if we go steamies and they go dishole, they could wreck us good.

[~Napalm]

My gut tells me they go Catatitans or DisBH. I bet either deck has Elite Oty. So something that answers to both should be good. Who else does Gravity face..?

Edit: Water. Catatitans might be a much better match up there, where Freeze is a constant problem. With Catatitans, you soothe that problem by dealing 17 extra damage, which is worth just as much damage as being frozen for 3 turns. Plus, I think they'll be scared silly of RT again. To the best of my knowledge, Gravity will play Catatians vs Water and DisBH vs us. Now time to analyze Life!

[deuce22]

I'm really uncomfortable with no Rage Potions against the threat of Elite Oty. It's giving me nightmares, seriously. While we obviously can't counter everything they plan on doing, we need to at least have some options. 4 Deflag seems like overkill. 3 Deflags and a Rage Potion? Maybe drop 1 Golem for a Rage Potion even? That's assuming we use the Lava Rush. However, I think we'd have better luck with a Mono. Possibly even some Immo's in there to jumpstart things.

I agree, I think mono fire is the way to go. The reason I suggested 4 deflags is because they will usually pack 4 discords or 4 catapults. Look at my initial post with decks, the mono should be pretty effective. Might be interesting to test with Phoenix as opposed to MPs.

[Antagon]

IF life mentioned the duells last war, i think discord will be their choice.

against gravity, its a bit more difficult. ill test a bit =)

the immo deck at least with earthmark immos only for golems are not enough. problem could only be a flying-titan-gravitypull deck(deflag pillars there, if they are not many from the start), but still beatable. 1 rt in the deck couldnt be wrong

and life lost 2nd round 2-1 last war with this deck:

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against a deck with eqs, and maybe theyll try it again. i also think the other lavarush could be a good choice here too.

testing atm against that (round 4 last war) too

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i tested the "standard lava rush" napalm posted at initial vault deck a bit, against both life decks, i mentioned before (with upgrades), and it should be in front.

against the rt deck, you just need to wait to have 2 golems at hand before playing both (and pillars out help), so you still have dmgdealers out, also after one rt.

lava rush should be fine, no matter what. BUT maybe a other deck is even better (cause vs rt-rush its about 60-40, so at least there better)

[deuce22]

This deck has >80% win rate against both discord BH (shuts down) and catatitans (outrushes 7-8 ttw). Because of the massive amount of quanta, regular phoenix works better than MPs. Not sure what cards are best to up, pill/pends or bolts seem like reasonable choices.

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[deuce22]

This deck has >80% win rate against both discord BH (shuts down) and catatitans (outrushes 7-8 ttw). Because of the massive amount of quanta, regular phoenix works better than MPs. Not sure what cards are best to up, pill/pends or bolts seem like reasonable choices.

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10-0 on Cata-Titans, Many hands were pretty bad, but I pulled out of most of these with careful play. With good hands, it's chances are very good. (W11, W8, W9, W8, W10, W8, W9, W9, W10, W8)

6-4 on Discord Black Hole,  Good hands for most games here. Well it's not an easy one to counter without sucking against everything else, so it's a good result. All wins and loses were only by a turn or 2, so it's like picking a name out of a hat here. (W14, L11, W11, W14, W13, L12, L13, W15, L12, W13)

Mono-Gravity was crushed, 10-0. Do I need to explain?

Overall, I'd be more than happy to play this, if you guys approve.

Interesting. We will have to do some live testing to see how accurate both our numbers are.

[deuce22]

An idea might be to consider using dims. As previously discussed, it is unlikely that we will see flying titans.

[~Napalm]

After much testing, I've posted 2 proposed decks. These are in no way final at this point. Please continue discussion.

[deuce22]

After much testing, I've posted 2 proposed decks. These are in no way final at this point. Please continue discussion.

I believe you were saying that opponents think we can't rush anymore...I look forward to proving them wrong (as long as we win our matches ofc )

[Antagon]

i tested both decks against quite a lot decks, and they should be fine, a bit like a rock-paper-scissors with advantage on our side (if we havent missed something)

only the pendulums in the gaboid-deck, i dont like. (i love pillars,) why?
- imagine you have a pendulum and a nova on hand, first turn, you play it and youll get 2 fire and 2 earth quanta 2nd turn, and 2 fire 4 earth 3rd turn. => you still cannot play a graboid NOR a ragepot!

- pendulums are usefull to get more grabbies in the middle or late game, but there you should be in front (more novas=> faster win), you need the fire quanta much more (with the amount of 26 AND a pumper) and "only" 15 earth quanta, a tower is fragile and the chance is greater to have more of fire cards at hand, you cannot play then graboids (only 5)!

- i know, rng sometimes make you feel like "damn, i would need more earth quanta", that could be true (but with 50% fire cards we are a bit limited), and this deck is based on nova to rush, so it has bad draws - like every other deck too - but pendulums destroy a bit the average draw - in my opinion.


*edit*: but TFO has to be fine with the deck, thats most important, if you feel better with the 2 pendulums, you should keep them.

[~Napalm]

With the threat of Heal and Scorpions, and the additional threat of Poison, should we toss 1 Purify in the deck as follows? I've also removed 1 pend. Just 1 seems kinda silly though. That could just as easily be substituted. However, the chance of being left with only 1 Pend and 1 Nova are very very minimal now, while getting that extra quanta mid game to combat healing is still an option. Thoughts?

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