War 13 R1 Discussion

[shockcannon]

I want to save life stall for later. Graviton firemasters can beat a potential stall and rage pots will deal with a frog rush. I also think I posted a slightly wrong list. I’m giving you fire shield in case of Adrenastaves also. I think crema is much safer vs gravity. DBH is going to destroy a deck running rage pots and red nymphs. As for light I’m taking a risk because that’s the most unpredictable match up imo. EQ deck could be okay but I think it might still lose to a really fast rush from light. Mitosis should beat a stall and a midrange rush.

[kaempfer13]

Graviton firemasters can beat a potential stall and rage pots will deal with a frog rush.
Have you tested this?
I also think I posted a slightly wrong list. I’m giving you fire shield in case of Adrenastaves also red nymph should take care of that, should be dead weight in most other situations; i might take a towershield though.
I think crema is much safer vs gravity. DBH is going to destroy a deck running rage pots and red nymphs dbh only runs creatures with 5 hp or less, you can stabilize against that, with an overquantaed mono you can def reach 3 quanta.
As for light I’m taking a risk because that’s the most unpredictable match up imo. EQ deck could be okay but I think it might still lose to a really fast rush from light. Mitosis should beat a stall and a midrange rush. i dont really think its gonna be a stall from them, pegi with sw or sow glories would destroy mitorol

[shockcannon]

I should’ve left a reflective shield in vault. I can add tower shield to the life deck though. I think you just need to have some more hope kaempf.

[shockcannon]

@kaempf @Annele

I changed my mind. We’re going to run all three life stalls this round. I’m not free for the next few hours but I’ll have it updated before deadline. Can you two (if available) test life stall for optimal pillar/pends and quanta?

I want double Fahrenheit for DANIs light matchup and potentially fire shield/tower shield in life and gravity. I know we already have double Jade but I’m worried about fractal guards and frogs, in which case that -2 from shield is going to make a big difference and adding an extra copy will really help.

I actually now think that RoLs look really bad vs light. Our vault is not prepared to face light, we really need some tech cards from transmutations. Earth duo sounds good but I’m afraid we still lose to Pegasus rush. Someone can test if they have time or I will later but I think life stall beats more potential options from light, especially with Jade shield and Fahrenheit. We also render CC useless. I think most teams will he bringing much more CC than PC/shield break vs us for R1. Therefore triple stall will play into our favor. I’m taking a gamble that gravity doesn’t bring DBH, but I have a feeling I mind gamed  enough in chat to keep DBH away.

I think our number one priority is winning alchemist for 6 of any card. We’re going to want to max out alchemist as much as possible for this war especially since vaults could be vastly different than previous years. I think life match up is our best bet so we’ll give that alchemist. I think we go with salvage for light because they could potentially give us some really useful tools especially if they run a stall. For gravity I’m thinking gambler. The +3 saved upgrades could be useful for making a deck that really isn’t viable without more ups. I’m just not sold on the value of lieutenant. Its only +3 upgrades and we’re going to be using a stall. I’d rather try to stock up upgrades with gambler and dump them all on fractix later on.

[kaempfer13]

revealing all 3 stalls is bad; its usually possible to catch someone offguard if you play a deck again that you already lost twice with, but not if youve already shown you have 3.
Besides that gravity isnt really a very stallable element in the first place.

[kaempfer13]

I think any non-lifeshield is inferior (lolol, to think that having bad shields was supposed to be lifes weakness other than complete lack of options for dealing with shields and creatures); towershield only cost 2  less, but loses both reflective and indestructible and ups, although it can be paid with  at least, but i dont think its worth
fireshield similiarly falls short of carapace, which tbf, we dont have in vault. felt unnecessary when we have firestorm.
We may use a 3rd copy of jadeshield in our stalls if we run only 2 stalls.
with a couple of jade staffs in the deck we can justify running more pends, allowing jade to come out earlier.

[kaempfer13]

There is 2 hours left for deckbuilding, so remember to make your edit before that time. I dont really want to make last minute changes without checking back

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This ought to do fine vs life and light.

[shockcannon]

Is the quanta still ok? We're adding a jade shield and a fahrenheit without increasing the pillar/pends. And do we consider adding an extra rain of fire to each along with a couple more pends?

For gravity I still think crema is the way to go. Just want to hear your thoughts though.

[kaempfer13]

I dont expect light to go particularly wide (unless rol hope which isnt really a problem), so no extra rof there
for life we could investigate the frogtal matchup

crema vs gravity seems fine, just doesnt like otyugh (and gravitypull is also kinda an issue, but it might get through that)

[shockcannon]

i'm adding a fire pend to the deck.