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Re: Round 5 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9142.msg108494#msg108494
« Reply #12 on: July 05, 2010, 08:38:25 pm »
Psh now my opponent is earth, not light...

I'm really doubtful about using the last deck in antagon's list against earth, cuz of earthquakes.

But seems like that's our best choice for now. i'll go for it.
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Re: Round 5 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9142.msg108509#msg108509
« Reply #13 on: July 05, 2010, 09:20:17 pm »
the problem is, that against entropy and earth graboid-rainbow and poison-bolt seems best for me.

thinking of an aether mark with lightnings (against entropy) + dragons.

or same with death mark, poisons (6 due to salvage) and 2 arsenics + dragons.


changed the decks a bit, current version is in the topic-thread, i will change them there, please ideas, and every single one please post, if you like it, or not.


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Re: Round 5 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9142.msg108595#msg108595
« Reply #14 on: July 05, 2010, 10:43:37 pm »
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maybe instead of deck-out/lock deck for girlsgeneration, not sure.


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+ 30 fire-cards, to clear vault a bit, but WHO should we give this deck then? (with creatures, fahrenheits, etc. to kill a possible deck out deck)

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Re: Round 5 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9142.msg108679#msg108679
« Reply #15 on: July 06, 2010, 01:22:59 am »
A couple additional notes:
I only have two marks.

I'd be happy to help test any of these decks.

Entropy has made ONLY 30-card decks every round except Round one.  I really think consideration should be given to a 31-card deck with six phase shields and six ragepots.  Two entropy wins is very likely and it'd free up both poisonbolt and novagrabby for other matchups.  There are scenarios where this sort of deck would be in trouble (i.e. quint and butterfly) but I don't think they're very likely.

I really don't feel it's time for a suicide deck yet.  We're still fielding six, the proposed suicide cards may yet find a use, and showing weakness at this juncture may be unwise.

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Re: Round 5 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9142.msg108689#msg108689
« Reply #16 on: July 06, 2010, 01:30:58 am »
we only have 7 ragepots left (could salvage 6 more, instead of burning pillars this round, but then burning pillars are low for future thoughts)

but also with 13 ragepots, graboid-deck also uses 6, so still not available for 3 decks.

on the other hand, i dont know what to play against light then, if they use their ice-bolt deck then, any rush-deck also seems to be weak.

MAYBE the poison-dragon then, very fast and poison just to make faster (i know, due to healing at normal not good against light), and arsenics could build up large poison-stacks.

so
 :light: poison-dragon (should be fast enough to deal with everything, also hard damage and slow shields, they might use, arsenic could build up immense poison-stacks against slow decks)
 :earth: 2x shield-lock, similar to last round (i think they are not exspecting that, still a chance to deal with momentums (with 4 rage potions), and pretty immune to eqs, cause you need only 1 pillar out at once to keep shield-lock. what do you think?
 :entropy: 1x grabby-rush (5 ragepots then) and 1x poison-bolt.

or vice versa earth-entropy?

suggestions???

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Re: Round 5 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9142.msg108720#msg108720
« Reply #17 on: July 06, 2010, 02:33:17 am »
No to suicide decks this round, I agree with Kev.. show no weakness!!

Looking at the decks they've been using recently, I don't wanna use the poison bolt against entropy.  The main advantage of that deck is that it is creatureless, so the opponents creature control cards are useless.  However since Entropy has lost almost all their anti-matters I say if I'm to use an agressive deck then bring on the dragons & phoenix.  Maybe I should use a fire/aether phase deck instead... possibly switch my deck with girlsgeneration's?

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Re: Round 5 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9142.msg108742#msg108742
« Reply #18 on: July 06, 2010, 03:09:41 am »
now i changed all decks, to shield-lock against entropy (4 ragepots + fh as only dmg-source)

poison-dragon against light (fast and with poisons out also a dragon-shot possible, arsenic should build up large amounts of poison)

and against earth a grabby-rush (5 rage pots+fog shield against hard rushes, also very fast, dont evolve graboids if reverse times exspected) and a poison bolt (bolts kill shriekers, also phase-shield-fractal should be possible) or change the decks, so kev with pbolt+2 marks?















*edit*  or this lock-deck? entropy has no heal, so maybe a BIT more dmg?
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Re: Round 5 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9142.msg108972#msg108972
« Reply #19 on: July 06, 2010, 12:52:52 pm »
I really like the decks you've chosen.  I know you're still mulling a bunch of things over, so a couple further possibilities:

Replace pillars w/deflags in Corrum's deck.  You said earlier they could help avoid miracle spam even if there aren't shields.  But pillars are obviously better if they use EQ, which you've indicated they might.  Meh.

Other cards to consider in the grabby deck: Marks, a lycan, forest spirit, rof (to free up a ragepot or two).  Meh.

Again, I like these a lot.  Poison dragon against Light is smart, and something I didn't think of.

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Re: Round 5 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9142.msg108988#msg108988
« Reply #20 on: July 06, 2010, 01:52:18 pm »
I think we're looking good.  I'll try to get on tonight after work for some testing but no promises.. it might be that I have succumb to the heat as it's gonna be 33°C (Feels like 41) today.  Heat wave ftw.

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Re: Round 5 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9142.msg109015#msg109015
« Reply #21 on: July 06, 2010, 02:33:18 pm »
I really like the decks you've chosen.  I know you're still mulling a bunch of things over, so a couple further possibilities:

Replace pillars w/deflags in Corrum's deck.  You said earlier they could help avoid miracle spam even if there aren't shields.  But pillars are obviously better if they use EQ, which you've indicated they might.  Meh.

Other cards to consider in the grabby deck: Marks, a lycan, forest spirit, rof (to free up a ragepot or two).  Meh.

Again, I like these a lot.  Poison dragon against Light is smart, and something I didn't think of.
@graboid-deck: marks not possible, caused by the 50% rule. and i thought a lot to use lycan+spirit, BUT if your opponent uses reverse times, they are way weaker, and 2 weapons both give great advantage in rush vs rush, same goes for 2 fogs. a rain of fire could be a good idea, but thats up to you, if you want to use one (instead of rage pot/a spirit) or even 2.

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or maybe with 1 deflag are ideas, not sure, also would like some response from corrum.

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Re: Round 5 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9142.msg109047#msg109047
« Reply #22 on: July 06, 2010, 03:40:33 pm »
The dragon poison deck for me looks good.  I will test it a bit during the day today to get a feel for it.
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Re: Round 5 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9142.msg109065#msg109065
« Reply #23 on: July 06, 2010, 03:57:43 pm »
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pretty immune against antimatter, good against dissipation fields and early shield-lock possible, not touching ragepots and also enough fractals/phoenix'. but a bit earlier shieldlock needed.

 

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