Round 4 - Decks

[Antagon]

Decks - Round 4


Antagon (master)

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Corrum

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kevkev60614

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plastiqe

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cokeandaspirin

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syco666
bye

We will have a thread like this for each round (Round 1 - Decks, Round 2 - Decks, etc.). The first post must show all the decks your team will be using during that round. Decks provided in the template are just placeholders. Use this thread for deck strategy discussion.

[Antagon]

   9.  kevkev60614
  10. MrBlonde

  13. plastiqe
  14. Zeru

  17. cokeandaspirin
  18. melzardust

  21. syco666
  22. jmdt

  29. Xinef
  30. Antagon

  31. Pervepic
  32. Corrum

[syco666]

gah, jmtd, he beat me in the last tourny =/ but oh god did it take a couple of hours just to play one game, he desyncs like ALOT >.> any sugestions for decks? as i havent had the time to spectate this war very much idk how gravs going with anything

[Corrum]

sounds like things may get reseeded like last round if entropy can't field 5 legal decks.
Corrum

[syco666]

it sounds like the issues are mostly resolved, just waiting for a finalization of who everyones facing =/

[Antagon]

we are very limited now, cause we lost our immo-decks (no sparks or photons), now we have to make real strong decks (always suggest a "farm deck" to decimate vault, but not this round, i think)

waiting for opponent-updates.

[Corrum]

looks like they are going to seed one more time now that they got the gravity darkness match worked out.
Corrum

[Antagon]

Round 4 - Deckbuilding
Time's Up

Below are round 4 matches selected randomly using http://www.random.org/lists/ . Teams now have to build a 30+ card deck for each team member.

When choosing your 30+ card deck, try to take into consideration your opponents possible strengths and weaknesses. Also recheck War deckbuilding rules. Illegal decks are an automatic loss.

Do not post your decks in public topics! Masters have been informed on where and how to post the decks.

Do not start battles just yet! This part is only for deckbuilding.


   5. Dragoon
   6. Antagon

   7. kevkev60614
   8. Helios

  11. MrBlonde
  12. cokeandaspirin

  13. plastiqe
  14. $$$man

  19. Corrum
  20. Malduk



Players who will skip this round:

syco666

syco skips this round, thats nice for our other decks, i also think opponents are possible to beat, although miracles are hard, and not MUCH time left for deckbuilding, i start thinking about our options now, you should do the same.

[plastiqe]

Well I looked at $$$man's previous games, he's played a control deck all three times (poison earth twice & darkness earth quanta denial).  I'd like to play a mono fire with some dragons/bolts but I'm not sure on what we've got left in the vault and the spreadsheet isn't working for me.  I've got 4x Mark of Fire to use in this match too.

Any suggestions for what to play against Earth are welcome.

[kev]

Well, we originially had in the vault cards for the following decks:
Fractal phoenix
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Golem earthquake
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Phoenix immo
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Immo golem
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2x Dragon bolt
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Poison bolt
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Nova grabby
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2x Dragons (w/Farenheit)
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Aether Fire Spirit
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With 29 filler... but now we're missing some cards.  We're down to 6 immos, 12 fire bolts and 0 earthquakes.  If we want to keep the last remaining immos for the fractal phoenix deck, the first four decks are no longer options.

Here are my thoughts:
Antagon: If Light is paying a lot of attention (and they probably are), they'll expect your dial-bolt deck from Round 2 because it's an answer to Miracle, Hope, and pretty much every card light has.  If they were confident and/or risk takers, they could run a quanta denial deck with EQ, pests, or discord, all of which are possible salvages for them.  Otoh fractal phoenix is so fast, they may not stand a chance even if they did have miracle and hope packed.

kevkev: If Light is paying a lot of attention (and they probably are), they'll have noticed that we've packed a total of six firestorms and zero fire shields in our previous 18 matches.  Vying for second place, this may be a great time to build a hope deck with a backup reflector shield.  I wish we had one light pillar (we should salvage one) to pack with a reflector shield.  That worked perfectly in the tourney I won last week.  Since we don't, I'd like to build a modified Dragon (w/Farenheit) deck.

plastiqe: I think there's a reasonable chance Earth will play the deck that beat coke:

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coke and malduk: I think  learned how potent bonewalls are against us.  Deflags aren't that effective and we haven't had more than a few creatures in most decks, plus immo just feeds it.  They seem to be big believers in shields.  Last round they used bonewalls, phase shields, and dusk mantles in their three winners.  I feel like poisonbolt may be a winner here, but antagon/plastiqe are considering bolt decks and we may not have enough to go around.  A deck-out deck could work if we used novas, phase shields, purify, and fire for control.

I guess it comes down to who wants the fire bolts.  And then the rest will work around it.

Edit: Just noticed Earth has never used more than 35 cards in a deck, and frequently uses deckout strategies.  They may have noticed that we never use more than 32.  If we want to take a shot we could make a 36-card deck with phase shields and fire for control.

[Antagon]

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i think could work fine for me (no steal or deflag for shields/discords, , theyll exspect it, 1 rain of fire for possible hope or pegasus rushes, 1 phase shield for 2nd attempt)

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i know, no marks, but they never used many earthquakes, know you have 4 marks, and next match against earth we could use them.
against their phase-shield-deck, its possible to do fast damage and finish with bolts fast, against graboids with reverse times, its a race. they like stone skin, and maybe are forced to use it early.

what do you think?




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maybe

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or similar,

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for coke? poison for continued damage and dragons for fast damage, enough pillars in to stand reverse times and also a chance to kill bonewalls with arsenics + dragons.

we HAVE TO speculate a bit, so id like as many ideas as you all are able to bring in.

[kev]

Brainstorming two possible deck-out decks:
Against     
Time mark   
6 dials
4 ragepot
9 fire pillar
2 rof
2 farenheit
2 deflag
7 aether pillar
4 dimensional shield

Against  :
Death mark
2 bone wall
6 nova
2 rof
4 ragepot
7 fire pillar
2 deflag
2 farenheit
2 purify
5 aether pillar
4 dimensional shield

Sorry, I can't seem to access trainer or I'd post deck codes.  Note that Mr. Blonde used 36+ card decks twice and Malduk used one once, so it's a bit more risky than Earth in one sense.

Corrum basically created the second deck, and I tweaked it by: -5 Bone pillars, -1 fire pillar, -1 aether pillar, -1 rof, -1 ragepot, +6 novas, +2 purify.