Deckbuilding ideas

[killsdazombies]

This thread is designed to allow decks to be discussed, likely to build parts of the vault around. Throw out ideas for decks, or ideas on how to play decks in certain matches. Anything you could deem helpful could go here.

[TheonlyrealBeef]

Note that these should include more upgrades/marks when possible:

Spoiler for staple decks. The decks we all know and love for Fire compiled into a neat list:

Spoiler for Fire/Light Stall (control stall):

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Including mod cards:
6 Fire Bolt 6 x 110 = 660
3 Deflagration 3 x 130 = 390
4 Rage Potion 4 x 80 = 240
3 Fahrenheit 3 x 100 = 300
2 Rain of Fire 2 x 60 = 120
6 Sanctuary 6 x 110 = 660
3 Miracle 3 x 130 = 390
4 Sundial 4 x 130 = 520
1 Reflective Shield 1 x 60 = 60
660 + 390 + 240 + 300 + 120 + 660 + 390 + 520 + 60 =
3340

Spoiler for PhoeBolt (cc resistant rush):

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Including mod cards:
6 Fire Bolt 6 x 110 = 660
6 Phoenix 6 x 100 = 600
3 Deflagration 3 x 130 = 390
3 Fahrenheit 3 x 100 = 300
660 + 600 + 390 + 300 =
1950

Spoiler for CreamRush (cremation rush):

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Including mod cards:
6 Phoenix 6 x 100 = 600
6 Immolation 6 x 90 = 540
2 Deflagration 2 x 130 = 260
2 Lava Golem 2 x 60 = 120
2 Ash Eater 2 x 30 = 60
3 Shard of Bravery 3 x 60 = 180
6 Spark 6 x 30 = 180
1 Reverse Time 1 x 90 = 90
1 Lightning 1 x 120 = 120
1 Fog Shield 1 x 120 = 120
1 Vampire Stiletto 1 x 120 = 120
1 Freeze 1 x 40 = 40
600 + 540 + 260 + 120 + 60 + 180 + 180 + 90 + 120 + 120 + 120 + 40 =
2430

Spoiler for Golems and Graboids (immolation rush):

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6 Lava Golem 6 x 60 = 360
6 Immolation 6 x 90 = 540
2 Deflagration 2 x 130 = 260
6 Graboid 6 x 120 = 720
6 Gnome Rider 6 x 40 = 240
2 Iridium Warden 2 x 70 = 140
360 + 540 + 260 + 720 + 240 + 140 = 2260

Spoiler for Fire/Earth Stall (control stall):

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Including mod cards:
6 Fire Bolt 6 x 110 = 660
4 Rage Potion 4 x 80 = 320
2 Rain of Fire 2 x 60 = 120
3 Deflagration 3 x 130 = 390
3 Fahrenheit 3 x 100 = 300
3 Titanium Shield 3 x 60 = 180
6 Stone Skin 6 x 60 = 120
2 Basilisk Blood 2 x 80 = 160
660 + 320 + 120 + 390 + 300 + 180 + 120 + 160 = 2230

Spoiler for Fractix (anti-control speedy stallbreaker):

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6 Phoenix 6 x 100 = 600
2 Deflagration 2 x 130 = 260
4 Fractal 4 x 150 = 600
600 + 600 + 260 = 1460

Spoiler for splash decks. Making good use of a few OP off-element cards:

Spoiler for SoPhoe (Shield bypass):

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6 Phoenix 6 x 100 = 600
2 Crimson Dragon 2 x 55 x = 110
2 Deflagration 2 x 130 x = 260
6 Shard of Freedom 6 x 120 = 720
600 + 110 + 260 + 720 = 1690

Spoiler for situational decks. Require a specific role but can have a nice surprise effect:

Spoiler for Ghostmare (draw denial) MERCENARY ONLY:

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2 Lava Golem 2 x 60 = 120
1 Deflagration 1 x 130 = 130
4 Nova 4 x 150 = 600
4 Nightmare 4 x 110 = 440
4 Reverse Time 4 x 90 = 360
6 Ghost of the Past 6 x 70 = 420
120 + 130 + 600 + 440 + 360 + 420 = 2070

Spoiler for Tears of Rage (NT Rush) TINKERER ONLY:

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6 Nymph's Tears 6 x 80 = 480
1 Nymph Queen 1 x 80 = 80
2 Deflagration 2 x 130 = 260
4 Rage Potion 4 x 80 = 320
480 + 80 + 260 + 320 = 1140

Spoiler for experiments. Probably not much good against your average deck without some modification:

Spoiler for VoidBolt (dedicated shield bypass):

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6 Fire Bolt 6 x 110 = 660
2 Fahrenheit 2 x 100 = 100
6 Shard of Void 6 x 60 = 360
1 Nightmare 1 x 110 = 110
660 + 100 + 360 + 110 = 1230

Spoiler for Unstable Bravery (dedicated shield bypass):

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4 Shard of Bravery 4 x 60 = 240
3 Fire Bolt 3 x 110 = 330
6 Unstable Gas 6 x 60 = 360
240 + 330 + 360 = 930

Spoiler for AdrenaBrims (cheap, speedy and fragile):

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6 Ash Eater 6 x 30 = 180
3 Fahrenheit 2 x 100 = 300
5 Adrenaline 5 x 60 = 300
4 Mitosis 4 x 40 = 160
180 + 200 + 300 + 160 = 940

[killsdazombies]

I really like time splashes with fire like this one used against gravity last war.

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Though you have posted a tremendous amount of decks that are great and certainly powerful. I'd love if we could get a few more options of other decks from other elements so we have some inspiration with our salvage

[TheonlyrealBeef]

Though you have posted a tremendous amount of decks that are great and certainly powerful. I'd love if we could get a few more options of other decks from other elements so we have some inspiration with our salvage

Well, in a lot of splash decks like these, the Fire cards have zero synergy with the off-element cards, they merely serve as the damage output. In this case, it's better to fill these parts last per round, with what's left in vault to play with. Often resulting in Crimson Dragons, Seraphs and Brimstone Eaters, probably with some Deflagration/Fahrenheit if deemed necessary.

As a result, each and every one of them will likely be weak to CC decks, since Phoenix/Fire Bolt are already the main cards in many powerful decks.

For full-fledged duos or trios (RoL-Hope <3) we can always think of them as we salvage stuff.

[TheonlyrealBeef]

I did some thinking + testing and found something that works quite well and should be ideal for wrecking Bonebolt and other Bone Wall decks with no PC. It's not an expensive (point-wise) deck to boot. I might look at other OP decks from other teams and see how we can make them fit into a fire-legal deck.

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4 Shard of Bravery 4 x 60 = 240
5 Titan 5 x 90 = 450
4 Flying Weapon 4 x 60 = 240
4 Catapult 4 x 70 = 280
240 + 450 + 240 + 280 = 1210

Note that the Bonebolt ai completely derps against this deck by using Lightnings on flying Titans... but the hp missing from Titans < remaining hp most of the time.

[TheonlyrealBeef]

Well, some last thoughts for a while. I'm growing a bit tired of this due to fatigue issues irl, but I'll check back friday ~3 hours before the deadline.

Voidbolt

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Modified version more similar to what other teams are using. Stall with Deflags, Elixirs, Vamp Stiletto or even a Bolt and save Dials, Nightmare and SoBras while possible. Go wild with Dials, Nightmare and SoBras after you can't hold much longer, making sure you saved something for the kill. Nightmare and SoBra don't mix well so Nightmare is the preferred kill method.

Tears of Rage

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Remember to prioritize using Tears on (upgraded) Pendulums. Needs Tinkerer boost, Fire support cards can easily be replaced with other cheap cards like SoBra, in case someone doesn't have Water Nymph: -1 Nymph, +1 Water Pillar, ensure at least one SoBra in deck.

Catitan

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This version requires Mercenary boost. SoBras can be swapped for Deflags or Rage Potions. Recommend changing ups from pends to Rage Potions when added, Raging Titans isn't the worst deck when facing PC.

Both ImmoPhoenix and G&G are still intact, Fractix x2 seems use-able as well. Light/Fire Stall can be repaired thanks to spares, but is probably best left catching dust for a while. After discarding we won't have a lot of Phoenixes and Fire Bolts left, though. Splash decks with Wings(4) and BBs(6) are also possible. I also worked on a (hopefully) more consistent way to let SoFree + Phoenix work:

Immo Fractix

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Not as reliable, but far better in dealing with BW and the potential to be faster. Needs upgrades, lt or gen role. Upgrade more pends with spare upgrades: it's start (especially with less than 2 unupgraded or 1 upgraded pendulum) is rough.

All of these decks are vault legal currently (taken seperately, not sure about joint in-element pool remaining: depends on discards), and remember Fire Spirits are excellent for vault discards.