Round 1 - Decks

[Antagon]

master of entropy is zeru, so we dont have to fear supernovas

and it doesnt matter if you play the same time or not, they have to determine decks - like us - before matches start

[plastiqe]

After testing against Ant I've changed my mind.  Discord was messing up our 50% Fire rainbow because you've only a limited quanta supply from Immolation, and you need all the & you can get in those decks.  For Entropy, we could play mono fire or poison fire and use a reflective shield in our deck for bouncing bolts, getting our light quanta from their Discord.  Just a thought.

[Corrum]

ok, I think I am reasonably happy with this deck. 

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[edit] I think I would like to use only photons as they will give me extra bodies vs. Bone Walls.

Corrum

[kev]

After testing against Ant I've changed my mind.  Discord was messing up our 50% Fire rainbow because you've only a limited quanta supply from Immolation, and you need all the & you can get in those decks.  For Entropy, we could play mono fire or poison fire and use a reflective shield in our deck for bouncing bolts, getting our light quanta from their Discord.  Just a thought.

Interesting.  I would've thought a fast rainbow would be a good counter to discord.  With discord in play, we'll never get the fire quantum necessary to fire bolts.  Maybe just a rainbow with more deflags, as antagon opened with?

and it doesnt matter if you play the same time or not, they have to determine decks - like us - before matches start

I'm dumb.

[Antagon]

After testing against Ant I've changed my mind.  Discord was messing up our 50% Fire rainbow because you've only a limited quanta supply from Immolation, and you need all the & you can get in those decks.  For Entropy, we could play mono fire or poison fire and use a reflective shield in our deck for bouncing bolts, getting our light quanta from their Discord.  Just a thought.

Interesting.  I would've thought a fast rainbow would be a good counter to discord.  With discord in play, we'll never get the fire quantum necessary to fire bolts.  Maybe just a rainbow with more deflags, as antagon opened with?

well, we tested with an entropy-deck like
3 discords
3 dissipation shield
3 maxwells demon
3 antimatter
5 abomination
13 pillars

and - except for the abomination - they could make 6 times this deck.

the rainbow is a good counter to discord, but maxwells, dis.shields and antimatters still kill you.

ill test the graboid-rainbow a bit more, at least the rage potions are great (maybe also replace some bolt with some of them in bolt-decks), BUT with good draws, maybe 1-2 deflags more and going first in rounds, it could beat that deck mentioned.
ill go on testing now.

[syco666]

hey with all the computer problems ive been having im sorry i havent been on more, my main computer is dead and im not even entirely sure why =/

against light im not sure what to do, i would like a grav shield again blessing/light dragon/ type stuff but we have none in vault, so maybe i should try a good rush deck? tho if i was light i would play white/red to use creature hate, i hate this guessing game lol anything deck ideas i can come up with could be easily countered with some one even half way guessing it, so maybe i should use discord/phoenix? i dont forsee light using rainbow. this is a brand new concept of gaming for me atm so i need lots of feedback.

[syco666]

Decks - Round 1


Antagon

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kevkev60614

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Kamietsu

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Corrum

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also im very confused at what all this means?

[Antagon]

hey with all the computer problems ive been having im sorry i havent been on more, my main computer is dead and im not even entirely sure why =/

against light im not sure what to do, i would like a grav shield again blessing/light dragon/ type stuff but we have none in vault, so maybe i should try a good rush deck? tho if i was light i would play white/red to use creature hate, i hate this guessing game lol anything deck ideas i can come up with could be easily countered with some one even half way guessing it, so maybe i should use discord/phoenix? i dont forsee light using rainbow. this is a brand new concept of gaming for me atm so i need lots of feedback.

the earthquake-golem should be a good idea, with one deflag less (cause white - at least - only have protected shields and weapons) and a rain of fire instead (if xdude really plays rol-fractal)
xdude, your opponent is the master of light, and he is able to use 6 upgraded cards, so it will be not easy for you, try to test the deck (if you fell comfortable with it) a bit to get a feeling.

then the deck will be

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and the deck in this posting are just old templates from sg, ill change it when all decks determinated.

[kev]

I started to quote antagon but I'm typing this on my phone and just typing will be easier.

I'm on board with the way the team is headed:
Antagon: fractal phoenix

Coke: bolt (though this might be expected and splashing a reflector shield may be prudent.  I'd certainly expect it if I were on team time, and I think the deck's in trouble w/o bolts.

Syco: plastiqe's suggested earthquake golem is good with Antagon's suggested changes.  These guys are as wise as they are handsome.

The remaining three should be rushes I'm thinking.  I'd recommend plastiqe and i take immo decks, as being able to immo our antimattered creatures would b helpful.  Liquid shadow murders phoenix, so we'll have to hope they didn't load up on them as I mentioned as a possibility above.  Maxwells are a serious problem for fire and we can bet jm and rasta know that.  If we do play rushes, we'll need to revisit whether we have enough creature control.

These are just my opinions.  I'm willing to play whichever deck is put before me.  And I fully acknowledge that plastiqe is more experienced and is currently testing, so I bow to his thoughts.

[Antagon]

ill test decks a bit today, 24h left, also spread a few rumours

i think the earthquake deck vs xude should do it (i really dont exspect rol-fractal, but even if he uses it earthquakes will shorten his aether quantum and the rain of fire will win the games), also corrum is fine with anti-poison phoenix and coke - hopefully - posts her final version of the bolt-deck today,
i hope i can catch plastiqe later for final testing, i think he will go poison-bolt, and kev, ill do the testing for you, atm i think mono-red bolt or still graboids (the rage potions do fine and maybe with 1-2 deflags more even better), and ill even test the aether-fire deck, is sounds weird at the first glance, but once there is the shield up discords will be useless and (2 deflags for 2 spirits exchanged) a quinted spirit could win the whole game, lobo also is nice, maybe. but ill do testing now, ill update it.


now tested decks with corrum, and that deck beat mono entropy (and thats what i exspect, any splash is possible, only darkness is a major problem (with steals), earth is more than unlikely (cause our rainbow-non-pillar chance is high, they know, ONLY with protect artefacts it could be a problem again) and also darkness (with werewolves) isnt so high, cause a simple fire shield could knock down. so we tested with discords, maxwells, antimatters and dissipation shields, and the only problem are the shields, but 4 deflags seems to be enough.

against such a deck,

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worked. never play an unquinted creature (dragon for final punch or mid-game), play first shield as late as possible, shield-lock discords down (in every test youll get enough quanta from pillars+mark to play the first shield), deflags for dissipation shields and thats it.

what do you(exspecially kevkev) think? its a bit risky to play this deck, but it makes discord-maxwell-antimatter to dead-cards.

[kev]

K. Like I said I'll play whichever deck is decided upon.  If coke is confident that jm will play antimatter and Maxwell, I trust her and we should choose a deck accordingly.

I think any of the decks Antagon mentioned stand a decent chance.

[plastiqe]

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Looking at it I feel really low on fire pillars but I dunno what to take out for them.

Could play 3x Mark of Fire with it, but since they aren't added to the mark I dunno if it's worth it.

Fire Shield? 

Also, I could sub in a Reflective Shield which would be played with light quanta generated by Discord.  If it actually worked it would be epic.

There is a kegger here today so it's unlikely I'll be back to post, and even then drunken deckbuilding probably not a good idea.  After ya'll have looked it over, go ahead Ant and make whichever changes you believe will help and I'll go with it.