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Decks We May Face (and how we can counter them) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23571.msg300450#msg300450
« on: March 29, 2011, 12:43:12 am »
What decks do you think teams will use against us?

Here's a thread with All War 2 Decks.
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,14666.0.html

Last War we saw a lot of Graboid rush against us.

Any other thoughts?

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Re: Decks We May Face (and how we can counter them) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23571.msg300573#msg300573
« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2011, 06:04:25 am »
we'll definitely see the return of pandebonium this time. We might want to make a fire/water rush.
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Re: Decks We May Face (and how we can counter them) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23571.msg300583#msg300583
« Reply #2 on: March 29, 2011, 06:34:16 am »
I think we are gonna see a lot of Skull Shields and Mirror Shields from everyone, as well as probably 2 copies of Bone Wall/Pandemonium from entropy. I don't think we can afford to take as many Firebolt based decks as we took last war. Mirror Shields were hard to salvage and implement, so teams that didn't pack them just didn't have them. But now, with Sanctuary and Crusader, suddenly light duos are easy with every element. We will definitely see more Mirror Shields.

How?

Well, we need decks that focus on higher HP creatures, because frankly, we are just gonna get eaten alive by any deck that packs Skull Shield. Alternatively, heavy PC could be included any deck  with a lot of low HP creatures. Also, permanent-heavy decks would be a nice change from the last war. Some of the more premiere decks can be recycled almost card-for-card, but we need to throw some new stuff in, too.

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Re: Decks We May Face (and how we can counter them) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23571.msg300635#msg300635
« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2011, 10:27:27 am »
Starting packing the crates of explosives then, we're gonna need some explosions! :D

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Re: Decks We May Face (and how we can counter them) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23571.msg300773#msg300773
« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2011, 03:55:55 pm »
Grabows are still going to be a pretty frequent opponent. Frankly if we make the Sancto stall, we should definitely pack a plethora of reflective shields. 'Splosions and maybe momentum might be good tools against all the fire hating shields (both svenn's suggestions). Pandebonewall will still be a threat, but less to the firestalls or say a steam machine deck. This also allows us to pack more purifys.

Can anyone plot anti-firestall decks? I have a feeling we'll be seeing a lot of those.

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Re: Decks We May Face (and how we can counter them) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23571.msg300782#msg300782
« Reply #5 on: March 29, 2011, 04:07:33 pm »
early discords could be enough to throw off a firestall in order to outrush it.
we have lame devtals and shit like that..
then again, sanct screw those over..

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Re: Decks We May Face (and how we can counter them) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23571.msg304271#msg304271
« Reply #6 on: April 02, 2011, 10:38:33 pm »
I think Sanctuary stalls are a good counter to Bone Wall decks, in general, but we could probably use another versatile counter, if someone can think of one.

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Re: Decks We May Face (and how we can counter them) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23571.msg304557#msg304557
« Reply #7 on: April 03, 2011, 09:16:43 am »
Napalm! Remember when me, you and plastiqe discussed pandebonium for tpvp?
I think we had some counters.. curse you my shitty memory.

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Re: Decks We May Face (and how we can counter them) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23571.msg304580#msg304580
« Reply #8 on: April 03, 2011, 10:29:41 am »
Napalm! Remember when me, you and plastiqe discussed pandebonium for tpvp?
I think we had some counters.. curse you my shitty memory.
Sanctuary Stall is our best bet for this, or a Discord based deck with Abominations. Heavy on the Deflags if we bring something that requires bolting. We can win a Poison race *only* if we can keep Discord out of it. A quinted creature deck is decent in theory, but we would probably still get Poisoned to death. 4 Aether + creature cost per creature is just too much.

 

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