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[Corrum]

I don't think it is a big deal, that whole post count thing is a bit silly as far as encouraging the inclusion of a "n00b".  I have been playing elements for about 8 months off and on but only registered for the forums 2 weeks ago.  Am I a n00b? maybe yes, maybe no, my score is 32k and I have quite a few cards to draw from.  If they really wanted to encourage people to include newbies they would have made it a score restriction.  Besides, I am sure there are tons of people that play the game all the time but only ever lurk in the forums without posting much.  Just my 2 cents, add a grain of salt.

Corrum

[Antagon]

sorry, i might not be able to participate. no money=no bills paid=no internet. when does it start? if its not for awhile then i might be able to but if its this week, i probably cant make it.

but i recruited cokeandaspirin

[Corrum]

with the fire entropy deck, I was trying to come up with the 15 fire cards based on things we weren't using yet since the card counts were so limited (12 each main ele, 6 of others)  however with the adddition of more people and the restriction relaxed to 18/6 (more the restriction limit than the other) for vault cards this shouldn't be as big of a deal.  Fire/Entropy does seem interesting.  Going to tinker some more with it using the wider card options.

Corrum

[kev]

Woot! I thought of coke as soon as I joined the team but didn't mention her cuz I haven't seen her in a while. I remember she whooped me once with a lance/dial deck. Looked to she if she posted it but she hadn't.

Coke, would you post that deck if you remember it? Won't be as good unupgraded, I know.

[plastiqe]

That's too bad about Kami... but coke is a great addition!

Corrum I agree that it's a silly restriction to have in the first place.  Just wanted to let the team know, maybe we can use it to our advantage somehow lol.

[Antagon]

we still need ONE member, replacement for kamietsu!

[Antagon]

syco666

is a possibility, he has 4 fahrenheits and 2 arsenics atm, and also enough electrum to buy andy upgraded deck, should we take him? anyone know him?

Team Earth has Azumi (an experienced player with a low post count) as their "noob".  Thing is, Azumi was on the old forums and the account was never linked so I'm quite sure if it was, Azumi would be over the 50 post limit.  Evidence here:
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,417.msg3573#msg3573 (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,417.msg3573#msg3573)

I dunno if you wanna mention it or not.  Good sleuthing none the less eh?  : P

they could take diodonko then with 8 posts

[Antagon]

i now tested fire-entropy a lot, and i come to the conclusio, it isnt great! you need 3 quanta for the discord, other cards are pretty useless for fire-players, and i dont want to have my strategy on one card. i like aggressive fire decks, and entropy doesnt suit. i would like it in a rainbow with more than 6 "quantum" cards, so a deck with 6 immos+4novas, but then we are not able to play that many rainbow-decks.

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5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f3 5f3 5f3 5f3 5f3 5f3 5uk 5uk 5ul 5ul 5um 5um 5um 5um 5um 5um 5uo 5up 5up 5up 5urtested this deck now for a while, could also be very strong, exspecially against decks with a mark for abilities. but not sure now. all in all i think it is too weak, and we dont should to build decks just to have more decks (read below).

also tested the gravity-fire deck, and the problem is, it doesnt have many control-elements and isnt the fastest deck, so im not sure what i should think of it. still at test-phase.



i would prefer a vault, with enough good decks (we could play 3ximmo-deck + 1xnova,) like 4x rainbow rushes(IF i play the fractal-phoenix, cause we only have 12 no-cost creatures), 1x poison-firebolt, 2x mono red and 1x earthquake golem, that makes 8 good decks (for 6 players), the rest should fill up cards, we dont use 18 from (like fahrenheits, fire storms, maybe also non-fire cards used in every rainbow (so maybe only 4 times), etc., so we can take 6 cards when we win and try to re-build our decks.

any suggestions?

[Antagon]

syco666 replaces kamietsu. welcome him

[Corrum]

that sounds good Antagon.  If at all possible, any card we don't use max number of in several decks we should pack extras of in the vault just in case of losses since if we lose we lose 30!! cards from the vault.  (First time I read the rules I thought we just lost the 6 the winner chooses, but this does keep the event from taking to long to eliminate an element).

Corrum

[Antagon]

i changed fractal-phoenix to this version now(aether mark), we then take 2xmarks in (only i can use), but they can help a lot and are great in many decks, so i think its worth it.

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[kev]

Rule changes: 360 cards total, 6 players per team, max 18 fire cards, max 6 non-fire cards, max 30 cards lost per match (high cost cards go first).

[03:10:39 PM] kevkev60614 [»] Scaredgirl: wait. high-cost cards first? does that mean we have to discard deja vu before sundial?
[03:11:35 PM] Scaredgirl [»] kevkev60614: yes

Possible new strategy: 36 card decks with 6 immolations and no pillars.  If we lose and opponent doesn't steal our immos, we get to keep them.  That means we can build a ton of decks around the card.

Also, Antagon and I were discussing the possible replacement of werewolves w/discords in these immo or nova decks.  It'd mean we'd have to draw 3 immos/novas before using the card rather than 2, but the weapon is a game changer against a bunch of decks.  If you have time, I'd love to hear other opinions.

I'd love to hear opinions on both these ideas, actually.

I'm kind of surprised there wasn't more discussion on this point.   We seem to feel strongly that our rainbow decks are among our strongest.  The rule change I highlighted means we can make a ton of rainbow decks with only two caveats.  One: they have to be 36 cards, so they'll be a hair slower.  Two: we're potentially at risk if we lose a bunch and opponents repeatedly take our immos/novas.  Let me put it this way: if we add 6 precogs to our first speed golem deck, we're very likely to keep our immos if we misdraw and lose.

As immos are imo the most important card at our disposal, its worth it to try to keep them.  So for the first round we use three immo decks, one nova deck and two others, but for the second round we should have more immo decks prepared in case we lose an immo/nova deck or two in the first round.

Thoughts?