Decks left

[Antagon]

BEFORE we decide, which cards to discard from girls deck and which to salvage

we had a very, very bad round (exspecially that kev lost with the better deck), and now we are short on anything (exspecially pillars, only 19 left and 12 used in the following 2 decks)

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i think that are the best decks (with a few cards to exchange like momentums, etc), we have left.

any suggestions (maybe a 3rd deck possible with 7 fire pillars?)

have to leave now, ill be back in a few hours.

[Antagon]

if we discard 6 phoenix, 4 fahrenheit and 2 crimson dragons,(and 18 more, but could be others too) from girlsgenerations deck, we have 59 fire cards left, which means 3 decks. any suggestions (also with cards, we are able to salvage) for the 3rd deck (some other cards for exchange are for sure a good idea).


for example

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or

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after salvage

or even

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after salvage are possible

[Corrum]

Can we salvage enough to have several of those as options for the 3rd deck or can we only salvage enough for one of those?

[Antagon]

we can salvage enough for all 3 (but fire cards are more or less given) BUT earth deck only, if we dont salvage the 3 momentums there (then we have 6, if we do only we still could salvage the basilisk blood and pillars)

[Corrum]

OK sounds good.  I think the earth pillars and basilisk bloods may be more valuable at this point than the momentums, the 3 we have is ok to splash in a deck.  Your call tho.
Corrum

[kev]

Yep, making three decks is pretty clearly our only option.  We salvage six from each of the following:

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4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vh 4vh 4vh 4vh 4vh 4vh 4vl 4vl 4vn 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uo 5uo 5up 5up 5uq 5ur 5ut 5ut 5ut 5utand keep 20 from here:

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From the first deck I think salvaging earth is probably better than gravity unless we're strongly suspect one opponent will shieldlock this round.

From the second deck salvaging entropy is clearly correct.

From the third, I think we should keep:
3 deflags, 1 ragepot, 1 fire shield, 6 immos, 3 amethyst pillar, 1 lycan, 1 lobo

And drop the:
4 crimson dragons, 6 phoenix, 4 farenheit, (we have too many of all of that and too few pillars to support them), 6 dials, 1 RT, 2 fog, 2 reflector

The remaining cards are 5 quint, 2 momentum, 2 grav pull.  My first thought was to say drop the gravity cards here and take the earth cards in the first deck.  But then I saw we have 7 quints.  Meh.

This would leave us with 57 fire cards.
About the decks you posted:
Your deck is great but you've used it enough it probably won't be a surprise.  I commented a couple rounds ago that shield lock is your doom but you managed to prove me wrong. Still, you may want to find room for another 1-2 deflags.  They're versatile.

The grabby deck is great; I was surprised at how effective it was.  While practicing, I beat  some really good t50 decks, including unionruler's fractal RoL hope.  We can consider adding purify, especially if we're up against Death.

The other three decks are phenomenal starting points.  We can tweak them later.  I racked my brain to come up with a decent alternative to what Antagon listed and the best I could come up with was this:

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[GG]

Yes. I tested the last deck and it easily owned ai3s and pvp1s. sounds like a good deck.

but if we have around 4 decks now, someone has to skip every round, i guess?

[Antagon]

yep, deck is very nice, also tested it. a few horrible draws, but overall great.

[kev]

yep, deck is very nice, also tested it. a few horrible draws, but overall great.

Just to be clear, I don't think that deck is any better than those you listed.  I was just trying to be additive to the team.

So I thought I'd get the ball rolling on deck creation.  We're up against Mr. Blonde this round.  He was the sole winner from in Round 4 and the sole winner/player in Rounds 5 and 6.  Here were his decks:

Round 4:

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52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52j 52o 52o 52o 52o 52o 52o 52q 52q 52t 52t 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5up 5up 713 713 71b 71b 7t8 7t8All different but similar.  All have two aresnics, mummies, and flesh recluses but more importantly all are heavy on shields and have virtually no creature control.

Something like this

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The other problem is that this is probably crapping all over our other deck ideas.  And the point may be moot if Antagon is up against Mr. Blonde.  Meh.

[plastiqe]

We should figure out who is playing who before we decide on salvaging and decks shouldn't we?

I agree that momentum could be useful against Death because they're sure to pack Bonewalls at the very least against us.  I think Entropy is likely to use quinted dragons deck again this round; I spyed Rastafla using it in t50 which gave me an idea for our players in the t50.  For example say Ant plans on running fractal phoenix, he could put up a fire bolt/sundial deck for t50 the day before matches start.  Disinformation might give us an edge, lol.

I tested the 4 previous fire spirit decks against AI3 and I had the best results with Aether/Fire, quintessence helps a lot since spirits are so fragile and the lightnings can double as direct damage... though I did manage a 22 point bonewall against the AI3 with sparks and virus.

Anyways, our opponents this round are Entropy, Death and Earth so we need 2 players + master.  I think it's prudent to at least figure out where Antagon is matched before we can plan on which decks to use.

[Antagon]

this round i chose kevkev and plastiqe to fight on my side (i have to play, master advantage and phoenix deck only working with master).

next round the "advantage" is on corrum and girlsgeneration

syco is last in list, cause we had to sub him once without a proof of life from his side, no other cases.



i think this system is the best, if anyone doesnt like that, post your opinion here

[Corrum]

Sounds good to me.  Good luck you guys.
Corrum