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Re: Shard of Bravery | Shard of Bravery https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37207.msg475733#msg475733
« Reply #108 on: March 30, 2012, 06:21:03 am »
Try the weaker version first and see. I have the feeling that the card shouldn't be neutral in terms of card advantage because it gives you a massive tempo boost.

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Re: Shard of Bravery | Shard of Bravery https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37207.msg475814#msg475814
« Reply #109 on: March 30, 2012, 02:56:35 pm »
I'll be honest. When I was messing around with it in the Trainer, I was INFURIATED by the fact that the amount of cards I could draw is 100% dependent on the space left in my opponents hand. If they don't have any space... I can't draw any cards. I really don't like being beholden to my opponent, thus the minor yet drastic change I suggested. I really don't see this being useful as a deckout card as it is, but maybe that's because I'm generally blind to that side of things anyway.
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Re: Shard of Bravery | Shard of Bravery https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37207.msg475817#msg475817
« Reply #110 on: March 30, 2012, 02:59:32 pm »
I'll be honest. When I was messing around with it in the Trainer, I was INFURIATED by the fact that the amount of cards I could draw is 100% dependent on the space left in my opponents hand. If they don't have any space... I can't draw any cards. I really don't like being beholden to my opponent, thus the minor yet drastic change I suggested. I really don't see this being useful as a deckout card as it is, but maybe that's because I'm generally blind to that side of things anyway.
But you have to admit that before SoB got this nerf, it was immensely overpowered. It allowed some decks to have a ttw of 3 or less, wich is tremendously fast and unfair. With the right setup you could draw all of your deck on turn 1 and the opponent couldnt do a thing...

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Re: Shard of Bravery | Shard of Bravery https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37207.msg475847#msg475847
« Reply #111 on: March 30, 2012, 03:55:35 pm »
Oh absolutely. There's no arguing that the original form was quite OP. I just wish I had a wee bit more freedom with it is all.
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Re: Shard of Bravery | Shard of Bravery https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37207.msg475943#msg475943
« Reply #112 on: March 30, 2012, 07:04:48 pm »
Lol, this plus Silence. 8)

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Re: Shard of Bravery | Shard of Bravery https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37207.msg475963#msg475963
« Reply #113 on: March 30, 2012, 08:00:29 pm »
What do you think about this version :

Your opponent discard 1 card and draws 2 cards. Draw an equal amount of cards, +1 more if your mark is fire .

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Re: Shard of Bravery | Shard of Bravery https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37207.msg475964#msg475964
« Reply #114 on: March 30, 2012, 08:08:52 pm »
What do you think about this version :

Your opponent discard 1 card and draws 2 cards. Draw an equal amount of cards, +1 more if your mark is fire .
it doesnt fit thematicaly

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Re: Shard of Bravery | Shard of Bravery https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37207.msg476217#msg476217
« Reply #115 on: March 31, 2012, 10:55:33 am »
Ok, but the theme of drawing doesn't fit as a fire theme.
So if we want to change the theme of the SoB I have this idea :

"The cost of cards you play is reduced by 1, 2 on your  :fire cards".

I think it fit more to the concept of bravery : I go to the battlefield even if i'm not well payed.

The opposite mechanism could be introduced to aether with an augmentation of the cost of cards your opponent plays.

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Re: Shard of Bravery | Shard of Bravery https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37207.msg477042#msg477042
« Reply #116 on: April 02, 2012, 03:08:37 am »
Maybe we need cards that are better the more cards are in the opponent's hand. Like that Harpy idea...

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Re: Shard of Bravery | Shard of Bravery https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37207.msg477116#msg477116
« Reply #117 on: April 02, 2012, 09:34:08 am »
The only powerful purposes I think

It is let your opponent draw all his deck than you and let him no card to draw and win :fire

this card cost3,cost a card from hand ,can't do somethings help battleground,can't bring you advantage of you hand card. In most cases ,it is useless.
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Re: Shard of Bravery | Shard of Bravery https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37207.msg477121#msg477121
« Reply #118 on: April 02, 2012, 10:21:42 am »
just wondering. if both you and your opponent has 1 card left in the deck, and you use SoB, who will lose first?? both you and ai atm have 3 cards in hand..
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Re: Shard of Bravery | Shard of Bravery https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37207.msg477138#msg477138
« Reply #119 on: April 02, 2012, 12:51:53 pm »
just wondering. if both you and your opponent has 1 card left in the deck, and you use SoB, who will lose first?? both you and ai atm have 3 cards in hand..
Answered here (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,21501.msg509063#msg509063).
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