Phoenix | Minor Phoenix

[Kameda]

Normal Phoenix can't the Immolated in the first turn.

[SirElven]

What kameda? It goes like this.

1. Play Photon
2. Immolate Photon
3. Play Pheonix
4. Immolate Pheonix
5. Play Pheonix.
6. Turn 2, i rebirth the first pheonix.

[Kameda]

Ahh, there's a Photon before the first Immolation ^^

[Arondight]

Lycans only have 1 HP.

Off topic is off topic, but..

Putting in Abominations instead of generating creatures take up too much space, and if it's pure entropy, having Super Novas (to use the effect of the mutations effectively) takes up more space to be effective.

Bad poster is bad. (me that is)

On topic, Phoenix is pretty powerful in such a small package upgraded.. 4/1 for 2 with regenerating capabilities? Probably purposely like that because of Fractal being released with it.

[BetaParticle]

I see one way to stop rebirth of Ash...
use liquid shadow.
replaces rebirth skill with vampire.

BetaParticle

[allanpike]

This card is way, way to powerful, escapilly the minor one combined with that immolation card, that lets you rack up a lot of fire quatums and allows you to summon powerful monster well to quickly. If your lucky and manage to get some creature control quick enough, then you might be able to win. If not you lose that's how it is. Which means it is completely broken.

[asymmetry]

This card is way, way to powerful, escapilly the minor one combined with that immolation card, that lets you rack up a lot of fire quatums and allows you to summon powerful monster well to quickly. If your lucky and manage to get some creature control quick enough, then you might be able to win. If not you lose that's how it is. Which means it is completely broken.

Then it's not OP, it just works. It's hard to get rid of, fact.
Besides that, the cremation thing is nothing new. Have you PVPed lately? A good percentage of the decks are pilarless rush. First turn, 18 quanta with two cards. And still, they often lose just like any other deck out there.

[allanpike]

Yeah I've been gone a while... I think it was like 1.0 something last time I was here...

Still, that combonation is OP, not only does it work. but it is extremely hard to get rid off.

[icybraker]

Note:

This may or may not have been mentioned before, but I just tested this in the trainer with Alfatoxin. Placing Aflatoxin onto a Phoenix causes it to die and turn into Ash; no Malignant Cell is formed.

Just for all yall who wanted to know. I love this card.

Edit: Optimalist ninja'd me by about 5 seconds when he posted this point in his idea thread. Well, he got it from me; I was the one who tested it.

[Waerloga]

I think even for 4 fire quanta the upped phoenix is still quite powerful.  4 quanta for a 4/1 vs 7 quanta for a 7/1 makes sense to me.

[3golden982]

Its a good card.Think:
How much fire quantam do you want to waste?
7 or 2?
By the way,with 7 fire quantam you can play 3 minor phoenixs=12 damage,while if you play just a plain phoenix=7 damage.
Its a good card for Cremation.

[evilpwner]

I like how sometimes the upgraded cards have lower costs and stats, like with Micro-abomination. Very cool.