Phoenix Phoenix Phoenix

[yaladilae]

by yaladilae

Hover over cards for details, click for permalink

Deck import code : [Select]

7dg 7dg 7dg 7dg 7dg 7dg 7dg 7dg 7di 7di 7di 7di 7di 7dk 7dk 7dk 7dn 7dn 7dn 7dp 7dp 7dp 7dp 7dp 7dp 7ds 7ds 7ds 7ds 7ds 8po

One word about this deck RUSH!!!!!!

[Powerfrog]

Seems very deadly, but why 3 fahrenheits? Seems a little OTT to me.

[doomlord]

ya i would say you only need 2 fahrenheits in a 30 card fire deck

[Antagon]

fahrenheit is a main dmg dealer, and you dont want it to get destroyed or stolen, i even would suggest 4, OR not a single one+less towers+ rage pots/deflags instead of firebolts.
but i would replase 2 dragons with towers or 1 tower/1 phoenix.

i have to say, atm im testing some similar types of this deck, and i havent found a REAL good way till now, all are nice and can be fine, but i still have problems.

[Artois]

Code: [Select]

7dg 7dg 7dg 7dg 7dg 7dg 7dg 7dg 7dg 7di 7di 7di 7di 7dm 7dm 7dm 7dn 7dn 7dn 7dp 7dp 7dp 7dp 7dp 7ds 7ds 7ds 7ds 7ds 7ds
I liked this so mush I built one similar.  Only I dropped the fire lances quickly and added explosions (far more useful).  Sure the lances & farenheit do damage, but getting dragons out early by cremating a phoenix means that the damage is out there already... just gotta explode those pesky shields!

And 3 farenheit is definitely enough.

[icybraker]

You really don't need 3 Fahrenheit in this deck. I'd take out one for another Cremation. Those things are fun.

Otherwise, great deck. You could even do this without Explosions, adding in 2 more Towers and another Dragon to replace the Explosions, and a Tower, Cremation, and another Dragon to replace Fahrenheits.

[Artois]

Maybe Ive been unlucky in PvP: a chain of phase shields & dissipation shield too.

I'll keep the explosions for now.  As I have no other perm control.

Maybe drop 1 farenheit, but what for?

More Towers arent necessary, as cremation boosts the quanta.

So its a cremation or another dragon... unless you have another idea?

[icybraker]

Because more Fahrenheits clog you up. Better more quanta than a hand with two weapons you don't even have to play.

Explosions are good, I'd keep them in. Personally, I'd drop an Explosion and a Fahrenheit for a Cremation and a Dragon because I'm curious as to the 6 Minor Phoenixes and the 5 Cremations. One seems to be missing. Additionally, Dragons are awesome.

[PuppyChow]

Well, you're never going to actually draw all 6 cremations and all 6 minor phoenixes. So you really don't need equal numbers; it's more about which you would rather have without the other. I would rather have more minor phoenixes versus more cremations; at least the phoenixes deal some damage.

And a 6 phoenix : 5 cremation ratio actually probably provides a roughly equal draw of each due to auto mulligan allowing cremations as a 0 cost card with no phoenixes as one.

[Syoxis]

This is along the same line as a deck I recently posted.  I have done a lot of play testing with this type of deck in pvp and top50.  After several revisions I arrived at:

Code: [Select]

5f2 5f2 7dg 7dg 7dg 7dg 7dg 7dg 7dg 7dg 7di 7di 7dk 7dk 7dk 7dm 7dm 7dm 7dm 7dn 7dn 7dp 7dp 7dp 7dp 7ds 7ds 7ds 7ds 7ds
Differences:
-The crimson dragons give you a much better chance of getting a dragon out on turn 1 or 2, which has won me several games.  I sometimes lean towards having all crimson dragons.  Once you have out a phoenix you only need 1 fire in your stock and a cremation to get it out, rather than needing 3 fire stocked.  This is often a huge difference in the early game.  12 damage now vs wait a turn for 15 damage.  It takes 4 turns to for that extra 3 damage to catch up, by which time the game is normally over. 

-More explosions - I have tried versions from 0 to 5 explosions.  I almost always find them useful.  They make the deck much more versatile.

-I agree that 3 Fahrenheits is too many.  Good way to have an useless card in your hand

-Too many cremations also leaves you with useless cards in your hand many times.  You really only need to get one to get out that first dragon.  A second one is great. A third is normally useless.

I hope this helps anyone looking to make a deck like this.  It is very fun to play.

-Sy


You can see my original post here:
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,6179.0.html

[Artois]

Oohhh I like that updated deck Syoxis  8)

[ODSTRookie]

As stated in the mini debate above I see the farenheits as some of the big hitters of this deck so if one is taken down you can just shrug it off and keep beating down your opponent with your flaming sword of doom.