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Chival

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Mono Fire Speed Deck for grinding AI3 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=202.msg2670#msg2670
« Reply #12 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:37 pm »

didnt mean to go off on you joob, just irritating because everyone is saying the same thing, you were just the most recent lol

joob

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Mono Fire Speed Deck for grinding AI3 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=202.msg2671#msg2671
« Reply #13 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:37 pm »

I did read, thanks, I guess I just didn't understand how little you pay attention. I usually at least glance at their shield, but I guess that's more than you do, so okay. I do like the deck, so thanks for posting it.

joob

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Mono Fire Speed Deck for grinding AI3 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=202.msg2672#msg2672
« Reply #14 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:37 pm »

Yeh, I did kinda echo that stuff, my bad. I do feel like those additions can help though, assuming you're willing to look at more than just the highlighting of playable cards. Still, regardless of the little variations, it's a strong, speedy deck which is nice for teh grindin'.

Parabol

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Mono Fire Speed Deck for grinding AI3 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=202.msg2673#msg2673
« Reply #15 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:37 pm »

I quite like the shield in that deck.  Apart from anything else, it isn't defending, it's creature control, which is kind of fire's secondary strength.

I've come across it a few times in top 50 and fire wall is beast against, to name a few usually game-breaking cards, ffq, bone/graveyard, otyughs (can never get above 5 health max, making them easy prey for a couple of rains of fires).

Raw power, I thought about swapping 2 of the crimson drags for lava golems in my version but there's just no point - you merely spend precious grinding seconds clicking 'Growth' each turn ;)

Does it work without brimstone eater tho? cos if it doesn't, it's gonna be hard for people to grind just to GET the grinding deck.  Can they be replaced by pillars with minimal effect?

EDIT: Oops you answered that in your first sentence.  Sorry >.<

Scaredgirl

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Mono Fire Speed Deck for grinding AI3 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=202.msg2674#msg2674
« Reply #16 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:37 pm »

That's a good deck. Simple, yet highly effective. Those Dragons hit hard.

Warr

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Mono Fire Speed Deck for grinding AI3 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=202.msg3194#msg3194
« Reply #17 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:49 pm »

dude this deck is so fast I love it...its like BAM boom POW!!!
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wckz

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Mono Fire Speed Deck for grinding AI3 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=202.msg3195#msg3195
« Reply #18 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:49 pm »

Very nice deck. Just remember, it's made for AI, and it'd be obliterated in PVP.

Differ

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Mono Fire Speed Deck for grinding AI3 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=202.msg4249#msg4249
« Reply #19 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:52 pm »

Alright, during the downtime I created a computer simulation. Assuming your opponent is a brick wall (no heals, no removal, no shields) the best number of fahrenheits is 0, the best number of brimstone eaters is 6, and the best number of upped dragons is 6. The brimstone eaters make a huge difference (1.5 turns difference between brimstone eaters and towers) and the 6 upped dragons give a 0.1 turn difference. Average turn count with the best build is 3.94 over 10 thousand trials.

In reality, the only thing that kills elites but not regulars is poison, and since the computer often puts two poison counters on something even if it has 1 life, it is sometimes a moot point. Also, elites have slightly higher efficiency against shields.

My deck creation gave equal draws to all builds, so the need for millions of trials was eliminated. Source code in C++ at http://codepad.org/DJ2i2HNQ . Will be gone soon because of codepad pruning, but I don't really care. After confirming that eaters were essential I took them out of the program and ran 10k trials for everything.

ElementalGod

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Mono Fire Speed Deck for grinding AI3 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=202.msg4250#msg4250
« Reply #20 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:52 pm »

I made the deck a short while ago and I have not lost a single game (I played say 20-30 games). Only change I would make is not to upgrade the drags to save money and power fahrenheit a bit more and be able to deploy them faster. Other than that this is a fantastic deck, thanks for sharing!

EDIT: I also never added the shield in the first place, instead I put a lance in.

2nd EDIT: Just added another tower and took lance back out. Tower > Shield

ElementalGod

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Mono Fire Speed Deck for grinding AI3 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=202.msg4251#msg4251
« Reply #21 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:52 pm »

This deck has one me four copies of eternity, one vamp stilleto, one trident, one Morning Star and two EEyes. Pretty sweet deck for A3 farming.

JTWood

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Mono Fire Speed Deck for grinding AI3 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=202.msg4252#msg4252
« Reply #22 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:52 pm »

I've switched to a no-creature version of this build.  Works great against AI3 and T50.

Let Farenheit do some work for you, and then Fire Bolt the rest away.  Pretty easy.

Chival

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Mono Fire Speed Deck for grinding AI3 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=202.msg4642#msg4642
« Reply #23 on: December 15, 2009, 10:09:53 pm »

that would really suck to do all that work just to come up with basically the same assumptions i made in my original post with no math at all lol.

 

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