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Mindless Ruby Dragons - fast way to grind for people who don't like to think https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11593.msg142457#msg142457
« on: August 20, 2010, 09:41:47 am »
Looking for a challenging and fun deck?
Look somewhere else because this is deck is all about fast and mindless grinding.


Mindless Ruby Dragons
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It couldn't get any simpler than this.

Burning Towers: for generating quanta
Brimstone Eaters: for generating quanta and softening up the opponent
Ruby Dragons: main damage
Fahrenheit: secondary damage


What makes this deck awesome?

A) Fast: You can finish your turn in less than a second
B) No thinking required: just click whatever is flashing
C) Less clicking: no buffing of creatures etc. required once they hit the table. Only play the cards and click SPACE


I would say that this is the fastest upgraded AI grinder out there that doesn't require you to concentrate on what's happening. If someone disagrees, feel free to prove me wrong.


To anyone who wants an unupped version, try this:

Mindless Ruby Dragons (unupped)
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I had to change Brimstone Eaters to something. Phoenix was the natural choice. Spirit is too slow, and Golem would have required a mark change.

This deck has a ridiculous amount of Pillars. 20. But it's ok because this way you get damage on the table very fast. Also with Fahrenheit, producing too much quanta is not possible because more quanta = more damage.

I didn't do any extensive testing with this deck, but the 9-10 matches I fought, I owned AI3 every single time.
« Last Edit: April 17, 2012, 02:42:10 pm by willng3 »

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Re: Mindless Ruby Dragons - fastest way to grind AI3 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11593.msg142513#msg142513
« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2010, 12:38:44 pm »
wow..overall great deck!..i liked it
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Re: Mindless Ruby Dragons - fastest way to grind AI3 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11593.msg142833#msg142833
« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2010, 09:16:06 pm »
I would say that this is the fastest upgraded AI grinder out there.
In terms of turns to win, number of games played in a set amount of time, or what?

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Re: Mindless Ruby Dragons - fastest way to grind AI3 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11593.msg142852#msg142852
« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2010, 09:31:30 pm »
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Cause you know, what's the point of endless grinding if you actually have to think?

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If you have to click more than twice in a turn after your first second turn, then you did something wrong!
I prefer mine =P
AND it works unupped.

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Re: Mindless Ruby Dragons - fastest way to grind AI3 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11593.msg142895#msg142895
« Reply #4 on: August 20, 2010, 10:34:44 pm »
I would say that this is the fastest upgraded AI grinder out there.
In terms of turns to win, number of games played in a set amount of time, or what?
SG means in terms of time to win.  The ttw of this deck will not be on par with some of the fastest ttw decks.

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Re: Mindless Ruby Dragons - fastest way to grind AI3 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11593.msg142899#msg142899
« Reply #5 on: August 20, 2010, 10:42:59 pm »
I would say that this is the fastest upgraded AI grinder out there. If someone disagrees, feel free to prove me wrong.
When I get around to testing decks later for realtime speed, I'm sure I'll find a faster one. ;)

I bet a mono death build is equally as fast or closer.

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Re: Mindless Ruby Dragons - fastest way to grind AI3 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11593.msg143214#msg143214
« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2010, 08:28:03 am »
Its good to see chival's deck again but:
using crimson drags is a better idea and dropping in a few un upped phoenixes makes the win rate a lot better

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Re: Mindless Ruby Dragons - fastest way to grind AI3 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11593.msg143596#msg143596
« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2010, 09:34:35 pm »
I would say that this is the fastest upgraded AI grinder out there. If someone disagrees, feel free to prove me wrong.
When I get around to testing decks later for realtime speed, I'm sure I'll find a faster one. ;)

I bet a mono death build is equally as fast or closer.
I doubt it. :)

The strength of this deck is that those dragons hit really hard. Even if they get instantly eaten, they still hit for 15 damage. And even if you kill them all, you still have your Fahrenheit to finish the job.

My original opinion stands: there is no faster/easier to play deck out there.


Its good to see chival's deck again but:
What's "chivals deck"? Do you have a link?


using crimson drags is a better idea and dropping in a few un upped phoenixes makes the win rate a lot better

 Trust me on this
I tried Phoenixes but I didn't like them. Those Dragons use so much quanta that if I took Phoenixes, I would probably have to drop a dragon or two and that would be uncool.

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Re: Mindless Ruby Dragons - fastest way to grind AI3 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11593.msg143694#msg143694
« Reply #8 on: August 22, 2010, 01:00:21 am »
Its good to see chival's deck again but:
What's "chivals deck"? Do you have a link?
I saw this earlier and did some searching and found the contents of chivals old deck in Kiszol's FASTEST Deck ever thread (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,1060.0.html).

to quote from Kiszol:
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Before this deck, there were 3 very very fast decks:
- Chivas's Mono Fire (16 Burning Tower, 6 Ruby Dragon, 6 Brimstone Eater, 2 Long Sword - Mark of FIRE)
- Skillgannon's Speed Earth (14 Stone Tower, 6 Elite Graboid, 6 Elite Antlion, 4 Elite Shrieker - Mark of TIME)
- Turin's Lidicrous Speed Earth (16 Stone Tower, 6 Elite Graboid, 6 Elite Shrieker, 2 Long Sword - Mark of TIME)
so Chival's deck is similar, but uses 2 long swords instead of a farenheight.  From Kiszol's testing that deck had a ttw of between 6.3 and 6.4 so I assume this deck is about the same.

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Re: Mindless Ruby Dragons - fastest way to grind AI3 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11593.msg143807#msg143807
« Reply #9 on: August 22, 2010, 05:56:07 am »
Its good to see chival's deck again but:
What's "chivals deck"? Do you have a link?
I saw this earlier and did some searching and found the contents of chivals old deck in Kiszol's FASTEST Deck ever thread (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,1060.0.html).

to quote from Kiszol:
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Before this deck, there were 3 very very fast decks:
- Chivas's Mono Fire (16 Burning Tower, 6 Ruby Dragon, 6 Brimstone Eater, 2 Long Sword - Mark of FIRE)
- Skillgannon's Speed Earth (14 Stone Tower, 6 Elite Graboid, 6 Elite Antlion, 4 Elite Shrieker - Mark of TIME)
- Turin's Lidicrous Speed Earth (16 Stone Tower, 6 Elite Graboid, 6 Elite Shrieker, 2 Long Sword - Mark of TIME)
so Chival's deck is similar, but uses 2 long swords instead of a farenheight.  From Kiszol's testing that deck had a ttw of between 6.3 and 6.4 so I assume this deck is about the same.
Actually no, chivals deck used 1 farenhite
+ 1 fire shield

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Re: Mindless Ruby Dragons - fastest way to grind AI3 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11593.msg143859#msg143859
« Reply #10 on: August 22, 2010, 08:14:14 am »
Its good to see chival's deck again but:
What's "chivals deck"? Do you have a link?
I saw this earlier and did some searching and found the contents of chivals old deck in Kiszol's FASTEST Deck ever thread (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,1060.0.html).

to quote from Kiszol:
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Before this deck, there were 3 very very fast decks:
- Chivas's Mono Fire (16 Burning Tower, 6 Ruby Dragon, 6 Brimstone Eater, 2 Long Sword - Mark of FIRE)
- Skillgannon's Speed Earth (14 Stone Tower, 6 Elite Graboid, 6 Elite Antlion, 4 Elite Shrieker - Mark of TIME)
- Turin's Lidicrous Speed Earth (16 Stone Tower, 6 Elite Graboid, 6 Elite Shrieker, 2 Long Sword - Mark of TIME)
so Chival's deck is similar, but uses 2 long swords instead of a farenheight.  From Kiszol's testing that deck had a ttw of between 6.3 and 6.4 so I assume this deck is about the same.
Thank, I had forgotten about that topic. It's like the grandfather of the current Turns to win study (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,8813.0.html). :)

Funny part is that there's me ranting about the Turns to win vs. Time to win, basically saying the same exact thing I said in the new topic as well. After getting confirmation from myself, I know I'm right. :)


Its good to see chival's deck again but:
What's "chivals deck"? Do you have a link?
I saw this earlier and did some searching and found the contents of chivals old deck in Kiszol's FASTEST Deck ever thread (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,1060.0.html).

to quote from Kiszol:
Quote
Before this deck, there were 3 very very fast decks:
- Chivas's Mono Fire (16 Burning Tower, 6 Ruby Dragon, 6 Brimstone Eater, 2 Long Sword - Mark of FIRE)
- Skillgannon's Speed Earth (14 Stone Tower, 6 Elite Graboid, 6 Elite Antlion, 4 Elite Shrieker - Mark of TIME)
- Turin's Lidicrous Speed Earth (16 Stone Tower, 6 Elite Graboid, 6 Elite Shrieker, 2 Long Sword - Mark of TIME)
so Chival's deck is similar, but uses 2 long swords instead of a farenheight.  From Kiszol's testing that deck had a ttw of between 6.3 and 6.4 so I assume this deck is about the same.
Actually no, chivals deck used 1 farenhite
+ 1 fire shield
Link? Decks that are not posted do not exist. :)

I have a very small recollection of a similar deck that had Dragons and was designed to be "mindless", and I remember it had a shield because I remember saying that the deck builder should get rid of the shield. But I can't seem to find it anywhere, and it could be something else.

There's absolutely no point in taking a fire shield when fighting AI3, it will only slow you down. I think it would be ridiculous to try to build the fastest deck possible, but then take cards that slow you down.

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Re: Mindless Ruby Dragons - fastest way to grind AI3 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11593.msg144059#msg144059
« Reply #11 on: August 22, 2010, 03:04:59 pm »
Nested quotes make me die a little on the inside.

Two weapons isn't cost-effective if you're not paying attention to the game and just clicking all the highlighted cards.

 

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