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Vara

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Unupped T50 grinder https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15755.msg201823#msg201823
« on: November 15, 2010, 08:10:03 pm »
by Vara
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The deck is quite simple, Ive designed it myself (I don't know if there already exist look-alike decks). It contains one rare card (fahrenheit), if you don't have that, it can be replaced by either a fire shield, deflagration or another fire pillar. I am using this to grind the T50 for rare cards. Perhaps the winning rate isn't awsome, but I feel like it works better than the decks mentioned here (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,11026.0.html) (unless I just had bad luck).

The strategy behind this deck:

13x fire pillar/pendulum: quanta production, obviously. Having too many quanta isn't a problem because of fire bolt/fahrenheit. It uses a mix of pillars and pendulums to protect against earthquake.
6x fire bolt: creature control. Lots of creature control. When fighting a rush deck, use this to kill whatever the opponent spawns. Try to disable the opponent of playing (powerful) creatures. Works especially well against grow decks (kill them before they grow). If you have quite some quanta reserve and the enemy is getting low on health, you can cast them on the enemy to finish him off.
4x deflagration: pernament control. Use this to get rid of annoying shields, weapons, or otherwise, their shards of gratitude (which seem to be popular).
1x fahrenheit: this isn't really that important, but it's cheap, and if it doesn't get destroyed, it can deal an increasing amount of damage against opponents which keep healing theirself with very low damage output. And if it is destroyed, it can have saved one of your pillars anyway. This is useful when you need a little bit more damage than your phoenixes can deal (against self-healing opponents).
6x phoenix: this is your main damage output. The phoenix is (because of her rebirth ability) the most resistent fire creature, so I used them because you don't want all your damage output being killed. This isn't a rush deck.

Some changes to this deck which could be made are removal of fireblots and adding fire pillars instead, or adding a fire shield. I am not sure about the optimal numbers. Currently, the quanta index (http://elementswiki.co.cc/articles/empirical-evidence-to-support-qi/) of this deck is 5.07 (if counting the mark as a pillar).
« Last Edit: April 17, 2012, 02:51:09 pm by willng3 »

kitty45

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Re: Unupped T50 grinder https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15755.msg244164#msg244164
« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2011, 10:08:16 pm »
your deck is similar to mine
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595 595 595 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f4 5f4 5f6 5f6 5f7 5f7 5f9 5f9 5f9 5f9 5f9 5f9 5fa 5fa 5fa 5fc 5fc 5fc 5l9 5l9 5l9 5l9 5l9 5l9 mine is immortal rush top50 grinder  (beat ranked 1 in top50  :) :D ;D :o 8) :P :)) remeber its a  :fire deck

kitty45

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Re: Unupped T50 grinder https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15755.msg244167#msg244167
« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2011, 10:13:02 pm »
i think you should add lava golems to your deck and change mark to earth if you add lava golems (test in practice first)

diocane

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Re: Unupped T50 grinder https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15755.msg244515#msg244515
« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2011, 01:34:58 pm »
@Kitty45

I'm sorry, i've tryed your deck and i must say it doesn't work.
Maybe you have just been lucky.

It works better with Nova then fire pillar, anyway the best unupped deck for grinding elder, top50 is still:

4vh 4vh 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 5f3 5f3 5f5 5f6 5f6 5f9 5f9 5f9 5f9 5f9 5f9 5fa 5fa 5fa 5fa 5fa 5fa 5l9 5l9 5l9 5l9 5l9

kitty45

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Re: Unupped T50 grinder https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15755.msg244654#msg244654
« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2011, 08:11:22 pm »
@Kitty45

I'm sorry, i've tryed your deck and i must say it doesn't work.
Maybe you have just been lucky.

It works better with Nova then fire pillar, anyway the best unupped deck for grinding elder, top50 is still:

4vh 4vh 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 5f3 5f3 5f5 5f6 5f6 5f9 5f9 5f9 5f9 5f9 5f9 5fa 5fa 5fa 5fa 5fa 5fa 5l9 5l9 5l9 5l9 5l9
i beat at least 10 ;D top50 lost 2 times :( :( maybe you got a bad hand

Re: Unupped T50 grinder https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15755.msg244658#msg244658
« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2011, 08:20:26 pm »
@Kitty45
Nice deck!
Imho, try to put two golems instead a pillar and a photon, for more power! You have pillars and phoenixes, so i think 6 photons are too many! Try and write your opinion!  ;)

kitty45

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Re: Unupped T50 grinder https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15755.msg244667#msg244667
« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2011, 08:43:07 pm »
@Kitty45
Nice deck!
Imho, try to put two golems instead a pillar and a photon, for more power! You have pillars and phoenixes, so i think 6 photons are too many! Try and write your opinion!  ;)
tried it lost against top 50 4 times

Re: Unupped T50 grinder https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15755.msg244672#msg244672
« Reply #7 on: January 10, 2011, 08:53:47 pm »
T50??? mmmm....I think you must upgrade others cards to win t50 with a decent %! Yeah, you can win some hands with 60cards decks because you have more speedy ;D, but you have not many chance to win against rushes. Both you have 3 or 5 lava :) In any case, thanks for the answer, i don't play the deck so it's very possible my suggest is wrong!               

kitty45

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Re: Unupped T50 grinder https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15755.msg244715#msg244715
« Reply #8 on: January 10, 2011, 10:23:35 pm »
your deck is similar to mine
Code: [Select]
595 595 595 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f4 5f4 5f6 5f6 5f7 5f7 5f9 5f9 5f9 5f9 5f9 5f9 5fa 5fa 5fa 5fc 5fc 5fc 5l9 5l9 5l9 5l9 5l9 5l9 mine is immortal rush top50 grinder  (beat ranked 1 in top50  :) :D ;D :o 8) :P :)) remeber its a  :fire deck
this  is my top50 be look at my topic top50 deck in fire section

arles

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Re: Unupped T50 grinder https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15755.msg337129#msg337129
« Reply #9 on: May 19, 2011, 10:29:31 pm »
How do you get the Fahrenheit card?

 

anything
blarg: Vara