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Vast https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48068.msg1054822#msg1054822
« on: March 27, 2013, 11:15:01 pm »
"Across the expense of time and space, certain things were required to sustain balance. Through the abilities of Vast, any who believed against this ideal were forced to contend with an arsenal of preventative tactics, forcing them to travel across vast expenses of the universe simply to remember who they were after fighting the forces of Vast."

Vast is an FG based on CC, making him amazing OTK fodder. However, he runs more spells than permanents, making him extremely deadly in the most Octanely sense. Taking down as many early towers as possible can give you a distinct early advantage, so abuse it to its fullest extent. If he can't congeal or lance, then he loses tons of CC even if he still has rewind and precog (although those are annoying enough in their own right). He runs no time towers, despite running loads of time cards.
Here is the deadly deck of Vast.
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The main plays Vast has are to congeal and rewind all of your creatures. After this, he plays into Fate Eggs and Ice Lance for damage. He can use Inundate well with only 4 creatures in his entire deck. Once all of yours are congealed/rewinded, he will start attacking you with Lance. Before that, he can also use Lance as CC.

He can kill you in ~6 lances and an egg, presuming lances are full powered and the egg isn't something silly like retrovirus.

If I really wanted to buff this deck, I'd add purify, but I don't think it needs something so annoying as that.
I also think the name sounds a little too much like a gravity god, but I can't think of anything better.
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Re: Vast https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48068.msg1054845#msg1054845
« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2013, 12:23:51 am »
Is precognition just there for theme? :)
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Re: Vast https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48068.msg1054878#msg1054878
« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2013, 04:23:24 am »
what about hourglasses in the place of preogs

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Re: Vast https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48068.msg1055032#msg1055032
« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2013, 10:15:40 pm »
Is precognition just there for theme? :)

It's there to increase deck size, it needs a bigger deck to be truly "vast". He seems to wait to CC with lance if he sees a creature, which helps you slightly. If he's at full quanta, he makes a lance play anyway.

what about hourglasses in the place of preogs
They actually lower the consistency. Even with half-precog-half-glass, I'm still seeing Vast struggle more than with pure precogs. This is because of quanta issues. He only generates 3 time per turn, and hourglass costs 4. if he waits for hourglass, he spends time wasting turns trying to play it out.
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