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Methuselah https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25077.msg319924#msg319924
« on: April 25, 2011, 11:34:57 pm »
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Monster deck for a monster False God proposal.  Have fun, the AI does bless its Wardens too. :D

Managed to beat him with a specialized counter-deck.  Essentially a 38 card Momentum/Dune Scorpion deck.  Third image I tried my favorite T50 grinder for kicks and giggles.  While I had a bad hand Methuselah did worse...






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Re: Methuselah https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25077.msg320223#msg320223
« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2011, 08:37:48 am »
........i really don't want to face a FG like that, super evil god you made there.
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Re: Methuselah https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25077.msg321024#msg321024
« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2011, 07:03:36 am »
It's just evil, not un-kill-able :D

There's several ways to deal with him, like decking out, dune scorps etc.

How about Earth Nymphs instead? Me no like Wardens. And Nymph could change the BBs I think, it'll make her faster and stronger :D And PAs are not really usable here, so remove some?
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Re: Methuselah https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25077.msg321028#msg321028
« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2011, 07:28:02 am »
Ya, your deck has no damage at all. An earth/time deck with SoG's should be able to deck it out. PA's for pendulums, Eternities for large wardens and anti-deckout, diamond shields, and a gnome rider.

It'd probably take longer than a dune scorp deck, but would probably be safer.

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Re: Methuselah https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25077.msg321093#msg321093
« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2011, 11:46:48 am »
Methuselah's not meant to be a high-damage fg, just require some unique strategies as well.  I didn't think of Nymphs, but I do like what Wardens do here.  Also, all his creatures are stopped by Gravity Shield, if you haven't noticed, requiring no real healing except in cases of horrible situations.

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Re: Methuselah https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25077.msg321096#msg321096
« Reply #5 on: April 27, 2011, 12:03:29 pm »
Very evil deck indeed. Maybe + 2 time towers + 1 eternity -3 PA to make it even meaner?

List of anti FG decks and there survival rate against this deck in trainer (withouth the changes I suggested):

I've GotP Time
won:0
lost:0

CC Why Bother?
won:0
lost:1
The only chance of beating him is spamming loads of destroyers at the right moment

Turbo-speed false god farming (RoL Hope)
won:4
lost:0
If FG doesn't have enough earth quanta this deck out damages it.

Eternal Chaos
won:1
lost:0
doesn't work except to deck out or have a really late win

The-Compeltely-Unoriginal-but-Semi-Original FGBow (with +1 time tower)
won:0
lost:0

Shak'ars Revenge
won:0
lost:0

Can Haz Moar Drawz?
won:0
lost:0

I will test this deck against some antiFG decks and post the results here. Don't know how long i will be testing ^^. And feel free to join the testing. However to join the testing you have to be familiar with the decks.

and don't forget to watch out for EQ

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Re: Methuselah https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25077.msg321098#msg321098
« Reply #6 on: April 27, 2011, 12:14:30 pm »
Note that EQs help get rid of any Time quanta needed for decking out, so an Eternity isn't a guaranteed deckout win. :D

I refuse to add Eternity (however possibly thematically appropriate) to Methuselah; that would just be too brutal.

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Re: Methuselah https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25077.msg321107#msg321107
« Reply #7 on: April 27, 2011, 12:26:03 pm »
Note that EQs help get rid of any Time quanta needed for decking out, so an Eternity isn't a guaranteed deckout win. :D

I refuse to add Eternity (however possibly thematically appropriate) to Methuselah; that would just be too brutal.
yeah you are right XD. And decking out an FG isn't a fun thing to do anyway. I think this FG would get a lot of autoquits even when they could beat it (with I have GotP time I still wouldn't fight this FG XD).

However, with an oracle prediction this FG is quite easy. Just pack silences sanctuary :P. If a deck possesses the potential to damage burst (while also able to get the FG to the right health) you can bypass the miracle's and stone skin.


btw, The FG targets all creatures equally (meaning most of the time RoL). Is this only in the trainer?

The FG uses often miracle before Stone skin, is this only in the trainer?

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Re: Methuselah https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25077.msg321122#msg321122
« Reply #8 on: April 27, 2011, 12:54:44 pm »
Silences do nothing against Sanctuary I think. :D

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Re: Methuselah https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25077.msg321142#msg321142
« Reply #9 on: April 27, 2011, 01:34:33 pm »
Silences do nothing against Sanctuary I think. :D
true ^^

Again: with an oracle prediction this FG is quite easy unupped . fire lance + fire pillars.

It's just evil, not un-kill-able :D

There's several ways to deal with him, like decking out, dune scorps etc.

How about Earth Nymphs instead? Me no like Wardens. And Nymph could change the BBs I think, it'll make her faster and stronger :D And PAs are not really usable here, so remove some?
dune doesn't really work, see screenshot.

PA's are usable, the shield + the Sanctuary's + quanta. 

screenshot with eternal chaos against methusa:

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Re: Methuselah https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25077.msg330224#msg330224
« Reply #10 on: May 09, 2011, 10:17:00 pm »
Just realized your deck is very similar to the one I came up with on my own...guess I won't make a topic then.

Re: Methuselah https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25077.msg330232#msg330232
« Reply #11 on: May 09, 2011, 10:39:39 pm »
I was trying to think of ways to make this meaner, but all I could come up with was Poseidon, which would definitely be run off Water mark - which removes the possibility of all those cruel Light cards.

 

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