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Eris https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17707.msg225611#msg225611
« on: December 15, 2010, 11:45:37 pm »
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Re: Eris https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17707.msg225615#msg225615
« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2010, 11:54:34 pm »
this is probably one of the easiest gods ever.. as it has very little creatures, which makes his damage potential very low...
i suggest, two extra dark nymphs (4 extra with 2X card), 2 extra purple nymph (4 extra with 2X card)
and a few more dragons

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Re: Eris https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17707.msg225625#msg225625
« Reply #2 on: December 16, 2010, 12:10:54 am »
I figured that out long ago, but you aren't very good at this are you?
This should in fact be a pretty challenging FG, RoL/Hope will have problem with 12 pandemoniums (which can also TU) and CCYB/Timebow will have problem with pretty much 1 steal per turn for 12 turns messing up their setup. Giving it small number of creatues (which is still 14) was the only way to balance it.

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Re: Eris https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17707.msg225630#msg225630
« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2010, 12:15:36 am »
You don't try to "Balance" FGs, they are supposed to be designed to be as hard as possible.

If you have room to make it more difficult, go ahead =]

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Re: Eris https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17707.msg225634#msg225634
« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2010, 12:19:00 am »
It's my view that all FGs should be hard, but balanced. They should be good at what they do, but should have weaknesses that you can exploit to win against them. What's the fun in FGs fights where you do everything you're supposed to do but lose anyway because the FG in question (looking at you, Hermes) is just ridiculously overpowered?
You don't try to "Balance" FGs, they are supposed to be designed to be as hard as possible.
Actually, additional comment about this: this is just plain wrong. I can design a FG that will pretty much beat common FG decks nearly 100% of the time. Apparently you enjoy losing and having unfair fights, but I don't.

Re: Eris https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17707.msg225678#msg225678
« Reply #5 on: December 16, 2010, 02:01:37 am »
due to lack of damage output, with the most popular CCWB, as long as u use a variation with a PA, u can just wait for it... and the quinted destroyers as usual, with a protected permafrost... yeah, u do basically no damage...

Re: Eris https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17707.msg225689#msg225689
« Reply #6 on: December 16, 2010, 02:34:32 am »
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Actually, additional comment about this: this is just plain wrong. I can design a FG that will pretty much beat common FG decks nearly 100% of the time. Apparently you enjoy losing and having unfair fights, but I don't.
Please, show!  I am curious!  :D  (This isn't a challenge or an insult, I really am curious.)

Against this FG I would go with an earth/time combo.  PA Diamond Shield, PA Eternity to rewind anything that gets LS/AM, Graboids/Antlions(yay!) to sit immune to LS/AM until they burst onto the scene en masse.  He has no shields, so maybe toss in aether mark for a few Quints so I can use something like dragons freely too.  Heck, even PA Lobo would kill this deck to pieces all by itself.

The main headache, given no rainbow, is Discord.  If that comes out early, things get a lot slower.

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Re: Eris https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17707.msg225702#msg225702
« Reply #7 on: December 16, 2010, 02:58:29 am »
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Actually, additional comment about this: this is just plain wrong. I can design a FG that will pretty much beat common FG decks nearly 100% of the time. Apparently you enjoy losing and having unfair fights, but I don't.
Please, show!  I am curious!  :D  (This isn't a challenge or an insult, I really am curious.)
Khaos (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,16039.0.html)

Does that work?

OT: I still think you should add at least a little more damage output into it somewhere. Most gods will have some weakness whether or not you tried to balance them or not, they will become apparent as you play against it. You should try to make it as hard as you can with the concept, it will never be impossible to beat.

Re: Eris https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17707.msg225737#msg225737
« Reply #8 on: December 16, 2010, 04:36:32 am »
Sure, it works against every common FG deck - CCWB, RoL/Hope, Puppychow, Timebow, etc.  Actually, I'm a little surprised Dark Matter doesn't have Discords by now.

(I did develop a decent specific-counter to Khaos though, let me know what you think!)

 

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