FG Theme: Outcasts -- Jezebel

[majofa]

[00:52:03] zanzarino: Jezebel (Darkness Mark)
[00:52:08] zanzarino: 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 7gk 7gk 7gk 7gk 7gk 7gk 7gk 7gp 7h0 7h0 7h0 7h0 7h0 7h0 7t9 7t9 7t9 7t9 7tb 7tc 7tc 7ti 7ti 7ti 8pt

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This seems to be the deck currently in trainer.

I think zanz said he beat this deck with a starter deck..... anyone have the quote??

[ddevans96]

I think zanz said he beat this deck with a starter deck..... anyone have the quote??

No, but this is Zanz's modified version of the deck.

[Newbiecake]

*Gasp* Really?? -Searches- So far none of the four appear yet. They ARE one of the possiblities of appearing when you challenge a False God?

It IS in there! Sweet! Thanks for the news flash bro.

[majofa]

I think zanz said he beat this deck with a starter deck..... anyone have the quote??

No, but this is Zanz's modified version of the deck.

Well, I know for sure that he beat 'a' version of the deck, with a starter deck. I don't think he ever said exactly which one it was.

[Thalas]

It's great that jezebel is gonna be FG.
I just think that my version of Jezebel (Sybil) would be much more fun to play against. (even though she's strong)

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[Essence]

I really hope Zanz got the full message about the revisions I suggested -- the version of Jezebel currently in the trainer is horribly weak unless he's updated the AI's rules for Nymph's Tears.   Also, with only half the suggested amount of cloaks, her main defense is pretty severely undercut.


Edit: Yeah, I played a dozen games against this version...it sucks.  She really needs to have a :watermark and Pests to function on the level of the other FGs.

[EvaRia]

I just realized an interesting fix.

Replace maybe 5/7 water towers with upgraded marks of Water.

Now they give water quanta, but spawn random nymphs.

Perfect, no?  8)

(Just make sure that the marks give relics in spins).

[Newbiecake]

Marks spawn random nymths? If so, hell yeah, go for it! Less chance to draw pillars= more chance to win cards + random nymths!

[EvaRia]

Deck would look something like this: (Image builder makes upgraded marks look unupgraded).

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[Ekki]

Well, upped marks give you upped marks for some WTF reason...
Even though That's fixed, I disagree with a FG having Mark Cards. I think they're supossed to belong to a player, not to the AI. Also, fixing the AI is the way to go, but dunno how much work it does involve to Zanz.

[godofdeath500]

Marks spawn random nymths? If so, hell yeah, go for it! Less chance to draw pillars= more chance to win cards + random nymths!

Yes, mark cards are labeled as 'Other'. But you cannot win mark cards or nymphs from an FG, or any other AI. So that defeats the idea, and I don't think zanz would be willing to change that just for this FG. On a side note, we have Paradox, who breaks the twelve card rule, but Paradox was created before that rule was implemented.

[Newbiecake]

Marks spawn random nymths? If so, hell yeah, go for it! Less chance to draw pillars= more chance to win cards + random nymths!

Yes, mark cards are labeled as 'Other'. But you cannot win mark cards or nymphs from an FG, or any other AI. So that defeats the idea, and I don't think zanz would be willing to change that just for this FG. On a side note, we have Paradox, who breaks the twelve card rule, but Paradox was created before that rule was implemented.

Dude, I'm not a newb. I know there no way you should be able to win mark cards, and of corse I disagree on mark cards being winnable because that would make tounaments prizes less interesting. The marks are only there to generate random nymphs instead of an army of Queens, and (if Kratho's problem is fixed) to heighten the chances of not drawing a pillar in the spins.