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Re: FG suggestion: Phoenixite https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16286.msg232983#msg232983
« Reply #12 on: December 25, 2010, 10:01:28 pm »
12 Explosions...
You've got to be kidding me.
Just so he can kick you once your down. I think there should be 8 in here at most. That should be enough to brutalize your average anti-FG deck. Also too many Cremations and Brimstones considering the total Fire costs. All the Rays could easily be dropped too, as supernova->2x brimstone->Cremate should do the job fine.
then how would it get going quick?
That's the problem. It's too fast! It needs slowing down otherwise nothing will stand a chance.

Re: FG suggestion: Phoenixite https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16286.msg233435#msg233435
« Reply #13 on: December 26, 2010, 01:27:38 pm »
I actually based it off of my deck, and SLOWED IT DOWN. MY DECK IS WAY FASTER. ILL SHOW U A SCREENSHOT OF FIRST TURN

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Re: FG suggestion: Phoenixite https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16286.msg233437#msg233437
« Reply #14 on: December 26, 2010, 01:31:52 pm »
I actually based it off of my deck, and SLOWED IT DOWN
FGs play by different rules.
12 Explosions give a high chance of 2-3 in the opening hand. With all the fire generation,they can blow up half your permanents in the first few turns, along with a hardcore spam of ash eaters and minor phoenixes. The deck works too fast (maybe not in your testing, but the triple mark, double draws, and double hp may be more significant in this case than you think)

Re: FG suggestion: Phoenixite https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16286.msg233439#msg233439
« Reply #15 on: December 26, 2010, 01:35:02 pm »
unhacked pic of first turn
(http://imageplay.net/view/m7Gbd113840/turn_1_firedeck)
happy?

that's a phoenix, a lycanthrope, and a virus pet first turn.

Don't say that's not fast.

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Re: FG suggestion: Phoenixite https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16286.msg233444#msg233444
« Reply #16 on: December 26, 2010, 01:48:53 pm »
unhacked pic of first turn
(http://imageplay.net/view/m7Gbd113840/turn_1_firedeck)
happy?

that's a phoenix, a lycanthrope, and a virus pet first turn.

Don't say that's not fast.
Believe it or not, the proposed FG is faster in terms of damage, has double hp, and will be destroying several permanents.

but I can't persuade you, so we'll end the conversation here.

Re: FG suggestion: Phoenixite https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16286.msg233450#msg233450
« Reply #17 on: December 26, 2010, 01:53:45 pm »
what changes do you propose?

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Re: FG suggestion: Phoenixite https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16286.msg233451#msg233451
« Reply #18 on: December 26, 2010, 01:55:41 pm »
what changes do you propose?
You'll have to give me a while with this one, as in it's current state it's like Eternal Phoenix + Divine Glory in terms of difficulty :P.

Re: FG suggestion: Phoenixite https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16286.msg233454#msg233454
« Reply #19 on: December 26, 2010, 02:06:25 pm »
that's bad how?
silence + sundial....

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Re: FG suggestion: Phoenixite https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16286.msg233647#msg233647
« Reply #20 on: December 26, 2010, 07:56:48 pm »
has WAY to many quanta at the end of a game and we already have a phoenix based god.
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Re: FG suggestion: Phoenixite https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16286.msg233665#msg233665
« Reply #21 on: December 26, 2010, 08:08:16 pm »
someone suggested a card called paradox II, so it's really original compared to that.

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Re: FG suggestion: Phoenixite https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16286.msg242698#msg242698
« Reply #22 on: January 07, 2011, 10:18:08 pm »
... First of for the old deck FG can't carry shards...

Re: FG suggestion: Phoenixite https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=16286.msg242788#msg242788
« Reply #23 on: January 08, 2011, 01:11:33 am »
ok... it might be changed later on...

 

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