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Re: Oracle : Ferox https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9596.msg392460#msg392460
« Reply #48 on: September 12, 2011, 07:10:15 am »
The first nom nom deck is sooo fnny and works well :)
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Re: Oracle : Ferox https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9596.msg393818#msg393818
« Reply #49 on: September 15, 2011, 11:05:29 pm »
0-3 with my version of the entropy/fire control. Today was the closest, I had 12 HP. and he played a dragon to slot 1, since the leaf dragon there had been killed, with an antimattered dragon in slot 2.
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Re: Oracle : Ferox https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9596.msg394841#msg394841
« Reply #50 on: September 18, 2011, 01:25:56 pm »
I'm still unsure how you can get 500 HP EMs since I always end up killing Ferox faster than expected even without Overdrive. Do I let him save some of his creatures so he can heal back the damage until ~10 cards left?

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Re: Oracle : Ferox https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9596.msg394986#msg394986
« Reply #51 on: September 18, 2011, 06:30:32 pm »
I tried to do that but I didn't had 500HP and I didn't EM'd either.. Still this deck pwned ferox very easily twice so it is a good counter deck
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Re: Oracle : Ferox https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9596.msg395367#msg395367
« Reply #52 on: September 19, 2011, 05:58:06 am »
I'm still unsure how you can get 500 HP EMs since I always end up killing Ferox faster than expected even without Overdrive. Do I let him save some of his creatures so he can heal back the damage until ~10 cards left?
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Re: Oracle : Ferox https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9596.msg400695#msg400695
« Reply #53 on: September 28, 2011, 03:50:50 pm »
Another failed oracle god for me.. 10 in a row now..

Didn't get any antimatter/fire bucklers the first 10 turns.

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Re: Oracle : Ferox https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9596.msg403647#msg403647
« Reply #54 on: October 03, 2011, 09:15:39 pm »
Finally won with the Maxwell's Buckler deck. Only had 1 card left in my deck and didn't get an EM or a card.
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Re: Oracle : Ferox https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9596.msg406898#msg406898
« Reply #55 on: October 09, 2011, 06:18:21 am »
Here's my variation on the Maxwell Buckler deck from earlier.

Theory behind the changes:
1. Oracle gave me a weak pet (this is a critical part of the strategy. If you don't have a pet this WILL NOT WORK!)
2. Original decks out too easily
3. Original deck can't safely AM more than once, making it prone to loss if Ferox gets a fast start and less likely to EM
4. The original deck cannot EM at all if Ferox gets his staff out
5. The original deck looked a tad weak on fire quanta (slow start on the buckler and spirits come out a couple turns later than they need to if you don't get your fire towers early enough). Final fire quanta is fine, but it needed a faster start on the fire.
6. The original seemed to have chaos quanta to spare.

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Basically I added a couple of BEs and a fire tower. I also used improved AMs because I had them but it would have worked just fine with regular AMs too (it would probably be about a turn slower on the kill due to slower bond control).

The BEs are for use on your pet. You might toss in a 3rd to avoid them both showing up on the very bottom (can't say for sure because with pet as a requirement it's hard to experiment in trainer). This deck has 33 cards (not the typical 30) but the effect on whether you get things early enough should be negligible and the balance feels good. The ability to take out bonds makes winning easy and is worth the extra space. The extra turns also work out mathematically in your favor in terms of likely average damage per spirit (they come out a fraction of a turn later on average, but still last nearly 3 turns longer on average and the later turns are worth more than the early ones, especially with BE).

With this deck you also don't need to be nearly as conservative with your AMs. If you get BE or have plenty of early spirits running go ahead and AM whatever Dragons you want. I used 2 AMs and won easily with 8 cards to spare and EM. (If you don't have BE yet, but things are tight and you have an extra AM, go ahead and play it (especially if you have a couple of spirits); you can still win as long as you don't get totally messed up on both BEs and spirits  (which should be rare, given how many there are).

As I said before, the dependence on a pet makes this impossible to test in trainer. I'm eager to learn how this works for others. I believe the improvements are solid but only testing will tell for sure.

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Re: Oracle : Ferox https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9596.msg414089#msg414089
« Reply #56 on: October 22, 2011, 07:32:29 am »
Having no rares or upped cards yet, I tried the 4th deck(in top post), Its totally useless, and as far as I can see it has no way to win.

the 1st thing Ferox did was put out a Jade Shield. What is the idea of this deck, I just could not see a plan ?


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Re: Oracle : Ferox https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9596.msg414091#msg414091
« Reply #57 on: October 22, 2011, 07:37:58 am »
Having no rares or upped cards yet, I tried the 4th deck(in top post), Its totally useless, and as far as I can see it has no way to win.

the 1st thing Ferox did was put out a Jade Shield. What is the idea of this deck, I just could not see a plan ?
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Re: Oracle : Ferox https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9596.msg414109#msg414109
« Reply #58 on: October 22, 2011, 08:24:47 am »
None of the unupgraded decks have ever been anything resembling reliable for me.

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2-0 on trainer, feel free to add sancs, though I doubt the slim chance of an EM would be worth the higher chance of bad draws. Another Steam/BE might not be overkill as well.


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Re: Oracle : Ferox https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9596.msg414117#msg414117
« Reply #59 on: October 22, 2011, 09:00:31 am »
None of the unupgraded decks have ever been anything resembling reliable for me.
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2-0 on trainer, feel free to add sancs, though I doubt the slim chance of an EM would be worth the higher chance of bad draws. Another Steam/BE might not be overkill as well.

Cute and clever little deck, can't wait to try it. I've been alternating between CCYB and VVV since the decks in this particular FG's OP so rarely work.

 

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