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Woe Alpha - Starter Deck Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25912.msg320937#msg320937
« on: April 27, 2011, 03:24:11 am »
New cards have come out since the original decks were made. Here's some updated deck lists. What do you think of the changes?
Each set gets the generic Shield and the weapon that is used to craft the weapon of their Element.
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4t4 4tc 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61p 61p 61p 61p 61q 61q 61q 61q 61q 61q 61r 61r 61r 61s 61s 61s 61s 61v 61v 61v 61v 620 620 620 620 620 620 623 623 623 623 624 624 624 8pr

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4tb 4tc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5od 5od 5od 5od 5od 5od 5oe 5oe 5oe 5oe 5of 5of 5of 5of 5of 5of 5oh 5oh 5oh 5oh 5oi 5oi 5ok 5ok 5ok 5ok 5ok 5ok 5on 5on 5on 5on 5op 5op 8pr

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4t3 4tc 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5ul 5ul 5ul 5ul 5ul 5ul 5un 5un 5up 5up 5up 5uq 5uq 5us 5us 5us 5ut 5ut 5ut 5ut 5ut 5ut 5uv 5uv 5uv 5uv 5uv 5v0 5v0 5v1 5v1 5v1 5v2 5v2 8pt

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4t3 4tc 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52h 52h 52h 52h 52i 52i 52i 52j 52j 52j 52j 52k 52k 52k 52m 52m 52m 52n 52n 52n 52o 52o 52o 52o 52o 52o 52p 52p 52p 52t 52t 52t 52v 52v 8pk

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4t5 4tc 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58p 58p 58p 58q 58q 58q 58r 58r 58r 58r 58t 58t 58t 58t 58u 58u 58u 58u 58u 58u 591 591 591 592 592 592 593 593 593 594 594 596 596 596 8pm

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4t4 4tc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4ve 4ve 4ve 4ve 4ve 4vf 4vf 4vf 4vf 4vf 4vh 4vh 4vh 4vh 4vi 4vi 4vi 4vi 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vk 4vk 4vk 4vm 4vm 4vm 4vo 4vo 4vp 4vp 4vq 4vq 8pj

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4t4 4tc 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f1 5f1 5f1 5f1 5f1 5f1 5f2 5f2 5f2 5f2 5f3 5f3 5f3 5f3 5f4 5f4 5f4 5f4 5f6 5f6 5f6 5f6 5f8 5f8 5f8 5f8 5f9 5f9 5f9 5f9 5fc 5fc 5fc 5fc 8po

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4t5 4tc 55k 55k 55k 55k 55k 55k 55k 55k 55k 55k 55k 55k 55k 55k 55k 55k 55k 55k 55k 55k 55k 55k 55k 55k 55l 55l 55l 55l 55l 55m 55m 55m 55m 55n 55n 55n 55o 55o 55o 55o 55q 55q 55q 55q 55r 55r 55r 55r 55t 55t 55t 55t 560 560 562 562 562 562 8pl

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4t5 4tc 5bs 5bs 5bs 5bs 5bs 5bs 5bs 5bs 5bs 5bs 5bs 5bs 5bs 5bs 5bs 5bs 5bs 5bs 5bs 5bs 5bs 5bs 5bs 5bs 5bt 5bt 5bt 5bt 5bu 5bu 5bu 5bu 5bu 5bv 5bv 5bv 5bv 5bv 5c0 5c0 5c0 5c0 5c2 5c2 5c2 5c2 5c6 5c6 5c6 5c6 5c8 5c8 5c8 5c8 5c9 5c9 5c9 5c9 8pn

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4t4 4tc 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l9 5l9 5l9 5l9 5l9 5la 5la 5la 5la 5la 5lc 5lc 5lc 5lc 5lc 5le 5le 5le 5le 5le 5lf 5lf 5lf 5lf 5lf 5ll 5ll 5ll 5ll 5ll 5lm 5lm 5lm 5lm 8pq

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4t5 4tc 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rh 5rh 5rh 5rh 5ri 5ri 5ri 5ri 5rk 5rk 5rk 5rk 5rl 5rl 5rl 5rm 5rm 5rm 5rm 5rn 5rn 5rn 5rp 5rp 5rp 5rp 5rq 5rq 5rq 5rq 5ru 5ru 5ru 5ru 8ps

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4t5 4tc 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i5 5i5 5i5 5i6 5i6 5i6 5i6 5i6 5i6 5i7 5i7 5i7 5i7 5i8 5i8 5i8 5i8 5ia 5ia 5ia 5ia 5id 5id 5id 5id 5ie 5ie 5ie 5ie 5if 5if 5if 5ih 5ih 8pp

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4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4t3 4t4 4t5 4tb 4tc 4vh 4vi 4vj 4vm 52j 52m 52t 55q 55t 596 5bv 5c8 5c9 5f3 5f6 5i5 5ie 5if 5lf 5ll 5ok 5on 5ri 5rk 5rn 5un 5up 5v1 61q 620 624 8pp

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Re: WoE Alpha - Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25912.msg320940#msg320940
« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2011, 03:30:34 am »
most players simply sold their decks and bought what they really wanted.
Can we skip the starter deck?

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Re: Re: WoE Alpha - Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25912.msg320942#msg320942
« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2011, 03:36:23 am »
Maybe it'll have to be that you can't just dump cards and buy stuff right away?

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Re: Re: WoE Alpha - Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25912.msg320944#msg320944
« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2011, 03:41:08 am »
most players simply sold their decks and bought what they really wanted.
Can we skip the starter deck?
This caused us to have fewer cards to use in the beginning, since bought cards cost more electrum than sold ones sell for. Seems fair enough to let players decide if it's worth it.

Also, Dagger is currently used to craft Discord, not Short Sword.

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Re: Re: WoE Alpha - Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25912.msg320948#msg320948
« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2011, 03:44:29 am »
I redid the crafting also. 8)

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Re: Re: WoE Alpha - Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25912.msg320962#msg320962
« Reply #5 on: April 27, 2011, 04:06:56 am »
Maybe it'll have to be that you can't just dump cards and buy stuff right away?
That would make me sadface. Like the real game you have to get out of that starting pit as soon as possible or you end up in loserville.

Having fixed starterdecks also build in inherent weakness. Whereas build your own deck mean you are to blame for fail not the cards you are stuck with.

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Re: Re: WoE Alpha - Feedback https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25912.msg321053#msg321053
« Reply #6 on: April 27, 2011, 09:01:46 am »
Maybe it'll have to be that you can't just dump cards and buy stuff right away?
That would make me sadface. Like the real game you have to get out of that starting pit as soon as possible or you end up in loserville.

Having fixed starterdecks also build in inherent weakness. Whereas build your own deck mean you are to blame for fail not the cards you are stuck with.
You can buy/sell cards right after you start. Just like in the game itself, we just give players a pile of cards for starters, and let them do whatever they want with them. I think it's a better system than just giving them cash.

Btw.. you posted that fluctuating price spreadsheet a while back. Do you happen to have that somewhere?. I forgot where the link is. We could try it out in alpha.


I haven't done any in-depth analysis of those decks, but it looks pretty good to me. A couple of things though:

1. What was the "system" you used when building these? Was there a system, you did you just pick cards that felt right? I'm asking because I notices that some starter decks have 6 Dragons, while others only 4. If we make decks different this way, it might potentially lead to them being of different value.

2. I think that Underworld should start with only QT's, Dagger and a Shield. They have so many options to choose from, that giving them any cards, would basically be totally random, and might lead to a situation where everyone is playing the same rainbow deck. It would probably be best to make Underworld "special" so that they are the only team that buys most of their starting cards. It even fits the theme perfectly, because they are basically outcasts who start with nothing, while other teams get a starting army from their element or "King".

 

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