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Re: Decks Used Against Arena with Stats 1.32 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45840.msg1173588#msg1173588
« Reply #540 on: January 01, 2015, 08:08:05 pm »
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[20:03:15] Dm [»] serprex: Formula shows in gdoc :
[20:03:17] Dm [»] serprex: 14985*Q59*(1+(R59*2,67))*1/M59)-(4995*(1-Q59)/M59)+(8524,8*Q59/M59)+(38428,2/((Q59^-1)+(Q59^-1)^2+(Q59^-1)^3+(Q59^-1)^4)/M59
[20:03:33] Dm [»] serprex: Formula shown in thread
[20:03:35] Dm [»] serprex: Silver (14985 * WR * (1 + (EMR * 1.67)) * XHP / TTW) - (4995 * (1-WR) / TTW) + (8524.80 * WR / TTW) + (38428.2 / GPS / TTW)
[20:03:44] Dm [»] serprex: Why did it become 2,67? :o
[20:03:53] Dm [»] serprex: (right after EMR or R59)
[20:03:55] serprex [»] Dm: No clue, blame cg
[20:04:15] Dm [»] serprex: uh
[20:04:20] Dm [»] serprex: Does this mean all UEI are wrong? ^^'

As I said, no clue what's going on. Posting so other's can look into if they feel like it, or I can get around to doing that some time when I'm not doing other stuff

(Going to point out here that I've added a link to the stat tracking spreadsheet to the OP)

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Re: Decks Used Against Arena with Stats 1.32 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45840.msg1175349#msg1175349
« Reply #541 on: January 10, 2015, 07:50:42 pm »
I've updated the spreadsheet with 1,67. I've also given CuCN modify permissions to the sheet

Will update OP later done
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Re: Decks Used Against Arena with Stats 1.32 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45840.msg1176134#msg1176134
« Reply #542 on: January 17, 2015, 05:48:49 pm »
Currently doing Pestal 101 for Platinum. Didn't see it in any stats, though I could have sworn I had done it myself years ago. I'm tracking Turns to win and EM of course, but also time to win. Do you guys use Time to win or did you decide against it?
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Re: Decks Used Against Arena with Stats 1.32 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45840.msg1176138#msg1176138
« Reply #543 on: January 17, 2015, 07:08:05 pm »
Tracking time is fine, but CG found that time per turn was a very personal stat. As such stats in this thread use turns, where we assume that a player can make 333 turns per hour. A user may measure their own average turn rate to multiply the stats accordingly

Note that I was lazy, & to avoid a bunch of errors from the google doc, I've substituted any stats that lack turn data with a ttw of 99
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Re: Decks Used Against Arena with Stats 1.32 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45840.msg1176222#msg1176222
« Reply #544 on: January 18, 2015, 06:51:56 pm »
Tracking time is fine, but CG found that time per turn was a very personal stat. As such stats in this thread use turns, where we assume that a player can make 333 turns per hour. A user may measure their own average turn rate to multiply the stats accordingly

Note that I was lazy, & to avoid a bunch of errors from the google doc, I've substituted any stats that lack turn data with a ttw of 99

Won't that make the UEI nosedive? Or is there a calculation for that that excludes ttw?
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Re: Decks Used Against Arena with Stats 1.32 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45840.msg1176223#msg1176223
« Reply #545 on: January 18, 2015, 06:55:22 pm »
UEI is ideally NaN without TTW, so it's garbage either way

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Re: Decks Used Against Arena with Stats 1.32 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45840.msg1176224#msg1176224
« Reply #546 on: January 18, 2015, 07:01:01 pm »
UEI can't exist without TTW, so if there's no TTW you can't really know UEI. So placing it as 99 is gonna make UEI retardedly low, which is pretty much the same as non-existent since no one really reads beyond the top five decks.

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Re: Decks Used Against Arena with Stats 1.32 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45840.msg1176266#msg1176266
« Reply #547 on: January 19, 2015, 02:09:57 am »
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Re: Decks Used Against Arena with Stats 1.32 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45840.msg1176267#msg1176267
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333 turns per hour is roughly 10.8 seconds per turn.  This seems about right to me for what fast play looks like.
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Re: Decks Used Against Arena with Stats 1.32 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45840.msg1176795#msg1176795
« Reply #549 on: January 22, 2015, 07:53:45 pm »
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League played against: Platinum
Games Played: 50
W/L: 22/28
EM Rate: 12/22
TTW: 11.863636
Special Spins: 7

I really don't know what in the world happened here. I had a great start that pretty much lined up with my expectations. I love shredding platinum with this, and I take great joy in the fact that this relic of a deck still works. Then I lost 20 of the last 26 games. I mean. Shit.

Even with that awful run, I'm still confident this is a viable grinder depending on whatever the current plat meta is. The EM rate is high, the TTW isn't too high and the time per turn is reasonable as well, compared to higher winning decks that have less em rate, higher ttw, and turns take longer to play (I'm looking at you, Swallow.)

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Win Turn 14 129 Seconds
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Win Turn 12 138 Seconds EM
Win Turn 10 083 Seconds  EM **Special Spin**
Win Turn 11 108 Seconds
Win Turn 09 087 Seconds **Special Spin**
Loss
Win Turn 11 126 Seconds
Win Turn 10 090 Seconds EM **Special Spin**
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Win Turn 17 181 Seconds EM
Win Turn 13 142 Seconds EM **Special Spin**
Win Turn 13 117 Seconds
Win Turn 13 138 Seconds EM **Special Spin**
Loss
Win Turn 22 275 Seconds
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Win Turn 07 100 Seconds EM
Loss
Win Turn 12 106 Seconds EM
Win Turn 11 138 Seconds EM **Special Spin**
Win Turn 10 116 Seconds
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Win Turn 15 138 Seconds EM
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Loss
Loss
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Win Turn 09 094 Seconds
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Win Turn 11 113 Seconds
Win Turn 09 087 Seconds EM **Special Spin**
Win Turn 12 126 Seconds EM
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Win Turn 10 097 Seconds
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Re: Decks Used Against Arena with Stats 1.32 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45840.msg1176954#msg1176954
« Reply #550 on: January 24, 2015, 12:50:36 am »
I am also farming Plat a lot with Pestal, my current arena version uses a 3rd Vampire instead of a 6th Fractal.

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Re: Decks Used Against Arena with Stats 1.32 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45840.msg1177003#msg1177003
« Reply #551 on: January 24, 2015, 10:01:49 am »
isn't plat full of fast rainbows that Pestal can't handle?

 

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