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Re: Decks Used Against Arena with Stats 1.32 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45840.msg1091607#msg1091607
« Reply #336 on: August 09, 2013, 10:24:33 pm »
Mind flayer usually isn't upped because of it's upped quanta cost from 2 to 3 when you only use it for the skill.
Mind Flayer is usually upped in SNBows because 3 quanta and 2 quanta difference is not huge when you're generating so much (and stat increases).
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Re: Decks Used Against Arena with Stats 1.32 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45840.msg1091613#msg1091613
« Reply #337 on: August 09, 2013, 11:00:49 pm »
2 hp vs 4 hp is pretty enormous in terms of surviving CC - it saves you from eagle eye, RoF, all bolts (when under 10 quanta), and thunderstorm. As an added bonus, 3 attack hits the adren sweet spot (though that isn't a huge deal in foldafolda's rainbow which uses heal instead (though if it's a buff-based bow, I don't know why it doesn't use adren)). About the only time I'd use the unupped over the upped in an otherwise-upped deck is in FG prediction situations where you know CC isn't gonna be an issue. I'd use the upped version almost 100% of the time in snovabows for arena.

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Re: Decks Used Against Arena with Stats 1.32 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45840.msg1091695#msg1091695
« Reply #338 on: August 10, 2013, 05:45:11 am »
I find that my semi-upped Gravitybow based on the posted one does decently in Silver (maybe a 75% win rate). Would SoW/reflective shields work well in Arena?

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Re: Decks Used Against Arena with Stats 1.32 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45840.msg1091985#msg1091985
« Reply #339 on: August 11, 2013, 09:44:48 pm »
I should really start recording my personal variation of the gravitybow (5 cards changed). In bronze I really can't remember the last time I lost, but it is more than 100 games ago. Seems also that for these high percentages 100 games is waaay too little.

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Re: Decks Used Against Arena with Stats 1.32 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45840.msg1092054#msg1092054
« Reply #340 on: August 12, 2013, 06:16:25 am »
I was kinda hoping this thread would be dead and replaced by another by now, seeing as I've been gone a few months...Unfortunately, I'm not to be so lucky and I'll have to shamefully ask myself.

I don't have the time for this, or the community at all really, any more. Do any of you have an interest in taking this project over?
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Re: Decks Used Against Arena with Stats 1.32 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45840.msg1092212#msg1092212
« Reply #341 on: August 12, 2013, 07:49:56 pm »
I was kinda hoping this thread would be dead and replaced by another by now, seeing as I've been gone a few months...Unfortunately, I'm not to be so lucky and I'll have to shamefully ask myself.

I don't have the time for this, or the community at all really, any more. Do any of you have an interest in taking this project over?

Thanks for getting it going in the first place, Elbirn.

If anyone wants to manage this specific study, please PM me and we'll see about getting a new thread set up which you'll be able to maintain. If not, I'll take over maintaining this study for the moment and just stick with this thread.

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Re: Decks Used Against Arena with Stats 1.32 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45840.msg1092230#msg1092230
« Reply #342 on: August 12, 2013, 09:14:45 pm »
I forgot to ask, I have not been including my wins in which the enemy had 1 hp and I just one shot him. Are the other decks including these wins?

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Re: Decks Used Against Arena with Stats 1.32 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45840.msg1092236#msg1092236
« Reply #343 on: August 12, 2013, 09:32:19 pm »
Absolutely yes. Record all games regardless of what happens (assuming you started playing with the intention of recording stats).

Once we start cherry-picking what games "count", the stats quickly become abstracted to the point of meaninglessness. Deck stats are meant to represent the overall performance of a given deck against a given target. 1hp decks are part of the arena "target" so should be included.

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Re: Decks Used Against Arena with Stats 1.32 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45840.msg1092436#msg1092436
« Reply #344 on: August 14, 2013, 03:03:36 am »
I find that my semi-upped Gravitybow based on the posted one does decently in Silver (maybe a 75% win rate). Would SoW/reflective shields work well in Arena?

Nice , I started to test it but completely lost focus and never completed the first 50 run vs Silver .

I should really start recording my personal variation of the gravitybow (5 cards changed). In bronze I really can't remember the last time I lost, but it is more than 100 games ago. Seems also that for these high percentages 100 games is waaay too little.

Which 5 cards ?
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Re: Decks Used Against Arena with Stats 1.32 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45840.msg1094684#msg1094684
« Reply #345 on: August 26, 2013, 04:26:19 pm »
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Re: Decks Used Against Arena with Stats 1.32 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45840.msg1094713#msg1094713
« Reply #346 on: August 26, 2013, 06:56:57 pm »
I find that my semi-upped Gravitybow based on the posted one does decently in Silver (maybe a 75% win rate). Would SoW/reflective shields work well in Arena?

Nice , I started to test it but completely lost focus and never completed the first 50 run vs Silver .

I should really start recording my personal variation of the gravitybow (5 cards changed). In bronze I really can't remember the last time I lost, but it is more than 100 games ago. Seems also that for these high percentages 100 games is waaay too little.

Which 5 cards ?

Already spoke a lot about the changes in the specific topic. (Flesh recluses, no venom dagger, forest spectre upping - still really on the edge about the mind flayer)..

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Re: Decks Used Against Arena with Stats 1.32 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45840.msg1094759#msg1094759
« Reply #347 on: August 26, 2013, 10:44:06 pm »
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