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Optimalist · « **Reply #252 on:** April 05, 2013, 05:30:27 pm »

On Silver
W:69 L:31 %: 69.00 % EM:19/69 EM%: 27.53%

Modified deck from Essence's Day Traitors.

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Times lost to specific cards
Phase Shield: 4
Deflagration: 3
Sanctuary: 3
Devourer: 2
Steal: 2
Shard of Focus: 2
Lobotomizer: 2

Other factors include: discord, oty, antimatter, chimera, reverse time, vampire dagger didn't show (4 times!), no light (once)
Rage Quit 3 times on sanctuary, hope, and devourer

This deck won 5 times because of Steal (3 times stealing Phase Shields, 1 time stealing Fire Shield, 1 time stealing Farenheit)

I'm testing a further tweak with 2 steals and 0 animate weapons.

ColorlessGreen · « **Reply #253 on:** April 05, 2013, 05:33:43 pm »

Quote from: Optimalist on April 05, 2013, 05:30:27 pm

Modified deck from Essence. I call it RoLmare or maybe Lightmare

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IMO, with regards to naming, just call it Day Traitors (modded by Optimalist). It's almost identical (-1 AW, -1 NM, +1 steal), and that's pretty much the naming convention used in this thread.

Optimalist · « **Reply #254 on:** April 06, 2013, 12:24:05 pm »

Thanks for knowing what it's really called. I couldn't find where I originally got it from.

Blacksmith · « **Reply #255 on:** April 06, 2013, 02:50:36 pm »

Quote from: Optimalist on April 06, 2013, 12:24:05 pm

Thanks for knowing what it's really called. I couldn't find where I originally got it from.

Why 2 dragons? and not 6crusaders?

belgianbronc · « **Reply #256 on:** April 09, 2013, 05:56:36 am »

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nearly-upped pestal stats for plat:
wins: 16
loss:34
win/loss = 32%
em: 7/16=43%

Dry spells and early creature/discords hurt. I'm thinking this is better off in gold.

zombie0 · « **Reply #257 on:** April 11, 2013, 01:52:03 am »

(VS PLAT)

got inspired by your deck, hadnt tested pestal in a while. heres my take on it

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its simple, tends to EM almost always, and loses to exactly what youd think it would. you either lock them down or you dont.

if no obvious improvements happen, will add some stats and game results.

-update- i believe adding another vampire is the correct move. SPOILER for that testing data

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. overall the deck is testing at 11-18. nothing that blows you away, but games are crazy fast. certainly getting the hang of how to manage the correct fractal target and pest/vampire ratio. the record is 3-11 for the first 14 games and 9-6 for the last 15 games. decent enough sample of what it can beat and not beat

zombie0 · « **Reply #258 on:** May 09, 2013, 07:30:07 am »

pestal taking a beating lately, due to faster and more quantum robust decks. check out the leaderboard, top decks have 95-98% winning rates

heres the current deck im using. i feel it may have an improvement or two possible through tweaking, but it does a good job and keeps the wins going. not so successful at the EM wins, but more wins overall and better chances against all decks

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Lluis83 · « **Reply #259 on:** May 22, 2013, 08:03:50 am »

Quote from: Takanashi on March 24, 2013, 10:45:10 pm

50 games in Gold, using:
Quote from: Faro on March 22, 2013, 08:23:23 pm
this is my last version:

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710 710 710 710 710 710 710 710 710 711 711 711 718 718 718 718 718 718 71a 71a 71u 71u 71u 71u 71u 7ee 7ee 7ee 7ee 7ee 7ee 8po

I have done 100 games in Gold with 52 wins and 48 Loses.

zombie0 · « **Reply #260 on:** May 22, 2013, 04:13:21 pm »

heres a really powerful deck vs plat for wins, but usually not EM. i thought SoR pharaoh scarab spam was dead after the shard nerf (like the golden decks) yet it seems well positioned against plat currently. check it out

it abuses a somewhat big weakness of the AI to CC correctly and plat seems to be slow enough in general for it to keep up

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(stats go here)32-35 (2 EM, 6 spin wins)

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ColorlessGreen · « **Reply #261 on:** May 22, 2013, 04:22:20 pm »

Just gonna throw this out there, as I've seen a lot of testing going on that isn't making it into the official records, and I really want it to make it into the official records:

The minimum information required to make it into the OP is currently minimum 50 games played (more is greatly preferable, though), with win/loss recorded. It is extremely helpful (though not required (though IMO it should be)) to additionally record TTW (average turns to win - does not include amount of turns taken for lost games) and EM rate (as expressed by ((# of EMs) / (# of wins))).

Note that you aren't required to do all 50 games in one sitting or anything of the sort.

Like I said, just throwing that out there in the hopes that more of the people running tests will do it in ways that will make it into the official records.

edit: With all that being said, I'd personally rather have incomplete stats than no stats if there's something preventing anyone from running the tests according to the accepted standards, so please none of you stop posting or anything. Just wanted to mention the criteria for inclusion in the study in case some people didn't know.

Elbirn · « **Reply #262 on:** May 22, 2013, 04:34:14 pm »

Also, stay tuned for me doing a massive and well overdue overhaul of this thread. I apologize for not updating this baby in the past 3 months, I have no excuse.

zombie0 · « **Reply #263 on:** May 22, 2013, 05:52:16 pm »

lately this thread goes weeks without any input, so lets not pretend that its hurting anyone to see a post or two a month

if you try to see what people successfully use against arena, you get a LOT of "my deck works against silver/gold but not plat". probably because unupped decks from potentially less experienced players with less AI bonuses are easier to beat? whoda thunk it...

i try to add some robust stats and game recaps so its at least mildly entertaining and informative. people seem to think saying "35-20 vs gold" is an actual stat. what does it win against? lose against? EM? how fast? are some losses obvious skips or do you have to play it out? and honestly even TTW is misleading, TIME to win probably much more important

if some of the players who beat their heads against plat all the time can be generous enough to share their secrets (even if one is so egomaniacal to believe that hundreds of people stack their AI decks against your personal farming deck

) about what currently works, THAT seems like the best use of this thread. creating some kind of deck archive seems against the usefulness of an active forum. lets discuss whats currently working and compare. arena changes so fast compared to FG.

theres nothing wrong with asking for more stats, its a nice way to minimize the "hey i just thought this deck up and its awesome in my head but its completely untested if it actually works". that said, something that someone played 2-3 months ago for 50 games may not be that relevant anymore, even if its well documented

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