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Re: Decks Used Against Arena with Stats 1.32 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45840.msg1177005#msg1177005
« Reply #552 on: January 24, 2015, 10:59:28 am »
isn't plat full of fast rainbows that Pestal can't handle?

It's also full of Purify to counter PDials, Super PC to beat SoP Decks like Swallow, etc.

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Re: Decks Used Against Arena with Stats 1.32 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45840.msg1177136#msg1177136
« Reply #553 on: January 26, 2015, 12:15:56 am »
Sorry for this really unprofessional entry, but I dont quite have the patience for these studies.

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I think this deck sort of counters the current meta, but has some serious speed and consistency issues. It would be great if someone could test it properly and/or improve it!

Also, yeah for one-of combos!

Edit: Tried it some more, unfortunately didnt keep track of the stats. However its winrate seems to be slightly above 50% which means it could make it into the top 5!  5 more special spins in the last 30ish games (so probably 15 wins)
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Re: Decks Used Against Arena with Stats 1.32 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45840.msg1177167#msg1177167
« Reply #554 on: January 26, 2015, 01:58:24 pm »
isn't plat full of fast rainbows that Pestal can't handle?

It's also full of DBH, Mono-Air, Mono-Gravity and Mono-Darkness what it can handle lots of times. Stalls are beaten if they can't get a Sanc out. And in Plat you only need 2 wins in a row for the special spin.

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I played just a bit with it and here are the results...
1. Mono-Air, got a SoR-Eternity out in 2nd turn, but got double-shockwaved. No more AW after that and lost.
2. Life-Light Stall. That awkward moment when I had two SoR-Eternities out to draw-lock dexterity. Dragon and Mito with eight cards left in the deck gave me an easy win, however I might have decked out with less luck.
3. Mono-Darkness, got lucky again with a 2nd turn SoR-Eternity and could slow him down a lot, however lack of damage killed me slowly.
4. Rainbow-Rush with 2nd turn-Disco. No chance, just got a 2nd-turn Eternity (AWed, but no shard).
5. Mono-Fire. 3rd-turn SoR-Eternity denied him a lot, early dragon gave me a good shot, lost by only 11 HP.
6. (~50 HP) Pestal, no idea how I managed to get that Jade Shield out, but it countered him hard. 4 damage from his Vagger were nothing. Neither Siphons (for Eternity) nor Vampires surprised me, tho. Win.
7. Poseidon-deck with Aether splash and Ulitharid. 2nd-turn SoR-Eternity could get rid of SoP-Uli for some turns, but playing 2 in the same were too much. Eternity got both BBed and loboed, luckily AI destroyed his shard when he had no creatures out. I slowly collected quanta for the already drawn Mito-Dragon-combo, what I finally brought out. It wasn't easy in front of more BBs and Ice shield, but Jade and SoGs blocked all damage and I could kill him slowly with the 3 dragons and 2 Eternities.

-> 3:4, no EMs

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All in all, it's lack of damage and - as you already pointed out - draw-consistancy are major drawbacks. Lot's of plat-decks spam creatures very fast and outrun this deck easily. I don't really know how to solve that without just making it a mono- :time with GotP. Maybe -1 Eternity -1 Jade Shield +1 Mitosis +1 Dragon to get that damage-combo out faster.
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Re: Decks Used Against Arena with Stats 1.32 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45840.msg1177287#msg1177287
« Reply #555 on: January 27, 2015, 01:52:20 pm »
Thanks for some testing @Ginyu

I was trying to make a meta call; jade shield versus SoW rush and small creature rushes (unfortunately often too late or doesnt show up at all; it still deserves its 2 places in this deck), SoR eternity to be about 50/50 with mono darkness and gravity (and stand a chance vs mono  :air). Eternity + dragon versus deckout and the SoGs to prevent death from a thousand cuts or poison.
Its doing okay versus DBH.

I guess ultimately its too slow to be perfect versus platinum, but it could be really good vs gold where decks are generally slower and sometimes dont run double draw (also Jadeshield stops unupped arsenics).

Superexpensive improvement: run  :time nymphs and more SoRs and some reverse time (and more towers); this allows much faster draw while the denial is about the same due to earlier reverse time (also gives more mitosis targets).

You can cheat in some Ems, by reversing some of your creatures, so you lasthit with your weapon after SoG kicks in.
I switched  1 tower for a pendulum for faster Jadeshield (just fyi)

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Not sure whether it is actually better since it takes way longer until you have the first flying eternity, but you start rewinding stuff earlier and develop the board more smoothly (against single draw this version is definitely better, not sure how it is with double draw). dragon counters gravityshield and brings the most dmg so hes here to stay.
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Re: Decks Used Against Arena with Stats 1.32 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45840.msg1177289#msg1177289
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I'll probably gather stats and edit this post.

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1) Titan :life (adrenatitans...wat?) *lost*
2) Damselfly :air (I'll let you guess this one) *lost*
3) Lycantrope :entropy (just a bow) *lost*
4) Pharaoh :entropy (pharaohbow) *win*
5) Darkness pendulum :darkness (air/dark SoFre rush) *win* *special spin*
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7) Green nymph :life (mono life stall) *win*
8) Crimson Dragon :fire (immo rush) *win* *special spin*

Anyone who wants to gather stats is free to do so. I don't think I'll be doing any more, because I'm way too lazy for that.
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Seems strangely familiar somehow (oh right, the bone collector!, but its different). Needs more SoSe, though  :P (just because its you)
I suppose this is for Silver?
I really like the spelldamage steam machine (maybe use the unupped? no reason to pay extra). I would also add an enchant artifact (it just doesnt sit right with me that you have  :earth, but risk destruction of the eternity  :P)
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Re: Decks Used Against Arena with Stats 1.32 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45840.msg1177294#msg1177294
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I'll probably gather stats and edit this post.

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Seems strangely familiar somehow (oh right, the bone collector!, but its different). Needs more SoSe, though  :P (just because its you)
I suppose this is for Silver?
I really like the spelldamage steam machine (maybe use the unupped? no reason to pay extra). I would also add an enchant artifact (it just doesnt sit right with me that you have  :earth, but risk destruction of the eternity  :P)

It's actually for platinium. I don't know if it's really bone collector, but I tried to counter pretty much everything in one deck. There is a topic with this deck somewhere. (made by me)

It had a SoSe in the place of pandemonium, but unfortunately, pande is was more useful here.

PA could be nice indeed and about the steam machine, well, I prefer it upped because I can play it even without quint sometimes if I feel like there's no real threat to it. (it doesn't died to rage elixir or double shockwave/lightning or any other CC)

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Re: Decks Used Against Arena with Stats 1.32 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45840.msg1195613#msg1195613
« Reply #559 on: July 05, 2015, 06:14:26 pm »
I am using this deck to farm silver arena. It worked fine unupped, it's doing marvels now that it's fully upped.

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It gets crushed in Gold arena and against FG. Relatively undefended against SoFre decks.

While this deck is already known, I came up with its formulation by myself. Here is the thread where another guy had my same idea, although actuated in a slightly different way. http://elementscommunity.org/forum/aether-28/psion-fractal-massacre-%28pvp1-and-ai3-farmer%29/.

My variation works much better and it's effective in Silver.
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Re: Decks Used Against Arena with Stats 1.32 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45840.msg1211913#msg1211913
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This is a deck I've recently started working on. It's semi-upped for Bronze.

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Re: Decks Used Against Arena with Stats 1.32 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45840.msg1216646#msg1216646
« Reply #561 on: November 30, 2015, 01:54:48 am »
This is what I'm using to grind Silver and Gold right now. A pretty fun alternative to bravery based air rushes, even though rng issues can be there with the fractal-damsel combo at times. Its fast and the win rate is quite good.

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Re: Decks Used Against Arena with Stats 1.32 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45840.msg1216670#msg1216670
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@PitamaSapien2, shouldn't there be SoFrees instead of SoW? Other than that, it seems pretty interesting and fun :)
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Re: Decks Used Against Arena with Stats 1.32 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45840.msg1216708#msg1216708
« Reply #563 on: November 30, 2015, 10:27:13 pm »
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Ya, definitely you can add more Sofrees if you want. I like playing with the SoWs because buffing the wyrms can speed things up considerably and it makes better use of aether quanta if you're waiting for a fractal. Also its just fun! If theres not much cc you can have a 6/1 damsel just chillen! I find that 3 or 4 SOfs is often enough to get the kind of shield bypass damage needed later in the game.
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