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Re: Decks Used Against Arena with Stats 1.32 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45840.msg1121388#msg1121388
« Reply #480 on: January 16, 2014, 08:20:09 pm »
Brave Wyrms vs Gold
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WR: 64%
W: 32
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EM: 2/50
TTW: 6.16
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Re: Decks Used Against Arena with Stats 1.32 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45840.msg1121413#msg1121413
« Reply #481 on: January 16, 2014, 10:20:44 pm »
More tests against silver, where this deck seems to shine best.

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WR: 92%
W: 46
L: 4
EM: 6/50
TTW: 6.22

The EM rate and TTW were helped out by 4 matches against 1hp decks.


EDIT:
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Another 50 rounds down.

Brave Wyrms vs Silver
WR: 88%
W: 44
L: 6
EM: 3/50
TTW: 6.25

Not as good this time around.
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Re: Decks Used Against Arena with Stats 1.32 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45840.msg1122253#msg1122253
« Reply #482 on: January 20, 2014, 09:34:35 pm »
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WR: 54%
W: 27
L: 23
EM: 1/50
TTW: 6.63

The EM was against the only 1hp deck I faced. I did the first half of the matches before the weekend and had a win rate more like the previous results, but I guess the metagame was not as friendly to the deck today.

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Re: Decks Used Against Arena with Stats 1.32 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45840.msg1122431#msg1122431
« Reply #483 on: January 21, 2014, 08:52:54 pm »
Figured I would try Platinum. It did better than I anticipated; I would not be surprised if more tests resulted in a lower winrate. Only a single 1hp match, though -- the other EM was against a healing-oriented deck.

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WR: 42%
W: 21
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Re: Decks Used Against Arena with Stats 1.32 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45840.msg1122522#msg1122522
« Reply #484 on: January 22, 2014, 07:49:54 am »
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Reality Rift Stats: Bronze
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My stats (I hope someday to get this up to min. 50 games):
Against Bronze:
Win: 35
Loss: 15
EM: 3
Total turns: 724
SS: 2

This was easily the least enjoyable 21 50 Bronze matches I have ever slogged through.  I really have no idea how Keo managed 38W 12L with it.  No PC means MA is auto-loss.  Limited and soft-only CC means things like Pharaoh-scarab spam and FFQ's are deadly.  Growth decks with some healing and/or CC are trouble too.  Bascially, 40% of that commonly found in Bronze destroys this thing.  Stay away unless you have a strong urge for pain and frustration OR are hoping to post enough tests in groups of min. 50 to get this off the top-rated Bronze grinders.  :o

Edit:  I have now completed the required 50 matches minimum to get included in the study.  I'll never use this deck again - nothing personal against its creator.  I just cannot stand the lack of PC, SLOW starting, and general weakness to the more common Bronze decks.  UGH!  It is my sincere hope these results drop this off the "spoiler" level of decks in the OP... ... ... :/
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Re: Decks Used Against Arena with Stats 1.32 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45840.msg1122526#msg1122526
« Reply #485 on: January 22, 2014, 08:41:05 am »
This was easily the least enjoyable 21 Bronze matches I have ever slogged through.  I really have no idea how Keo managed 38W 12L with it.  No PC means MA is auto-loss.  Limited and soft-only CC means things like Pharaoh-scarab spam and FFQ's are deadly.  Growth decks with some healing and/or CC are trouble too.  Bascially, 40% of that commonly found in Bronze destroys this thing.  Stay away unless you have a strong urge for pain and frustration OR are hoping to post enough tests in groups of min. 50 to get this off the top-rated Bronze grinders.  :o

Don't worry :D I didn't enjoy playing with this deck either :D It takes many turns to win, and even after 12 turns you sometimes don't know if you will win or not/if you can quit the game or not. Further, you have to think a lot what to play at each point of the game (since you don't have much quanta and excess cards which you have to choose from) and know exactly how the opponent's AI works, which makes each turn cost a lot of seconds. And even 1 HP decks need 5-6 turns if you don't get lucky enough for the discord I definitely wouldn't recommend this deck to anyone other than people who want a hard challenge once in a while.

Anyway:
1. Against mono aether, I didn't even once autoquit, and with luck in drawing earthquakes as well as antimattering Psions I won some (not even half though) games against aethers. Main strategy would be stalling his quanta till he runs out of shields.
2. Against Firefly queen, it's 50/50. If he has owl's eyes and shockwaves and you antimatter his Queens, he will attack them first before your dragons.
3. Against Pharao-Scarab, I can only say that you are right. But there aren't many of them in Bronze though. (Well they need a lot of time quanta, so the quanta stall is still effective, and with stone dragons you still have a chance, at least)

Another random fact: It isn't number 5 anymore. Once Colorless Green updates again, it is at max. number 8, because Mono Entropy bronze and Queens of the Bronze Age (both from colorless green) as well as It's a Trap! are above it.
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Re: Decks Used Against Arena with Stats 1.32 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45840.msg1122633#msg1122633
« Reply #486 on: January 23, 2014, 12:07:05 am »
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WR: 46%
W: 23
L: 27
EM: 6/50
TTW: 9.52

Winrate was a bit higher than I expected, and EM rate was a bit lower.

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Re: Decks Used Against Arena with Stats 1.32 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45840.msg1122942#msg1122942
« Reply #487 on: January 25, 2014, 06:24:03 am »
Bump - I finished the 50 games on Reality Rift.  See here
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Re: Decks Used Against Arena with Stats 1.32 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45840.msg1122968#msg1122968
« Reply #488 on: January 25, 2014, 12:34:47 pm »
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My version of wingsbow for Gold.

Total Games100
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Wins61
Win rate0.61
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Re: Decks Used Against Arena with Stats 1.32 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45840.msg1123028#msg1123028
« Reply #489 on: January 25, 2014, 07:16:39 pm »
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Reality Rift Stats: Bronze
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My results(I hope someday to get this up to min. 50 games):
Win: 35
Loss: 15
EM: 3
TTW: 14.29
SS: 2

This was easily the least enjoyable 21 50 Bronze matches I have ever slogged through.  I really have no idea how Keo managed 38W 12L with it.  No PC means MA is auto-loss.  Limited and soft-only CC means things like Pharaoh-scarab spam and FFQ's are deadly.  Growth decks with some healing and/or CC are trouble too.  Bascially, 40% of that commonly found in Bronze destroys this thing.  Stay away unless you have a strong urge for pain and frustration OR are hoping to post enough tests in groups of min. 50 to get this off the top-rated Bronze grinders.  :o

Edit:  I have now completed the required 50 matches minimum to get included in the study.  I'll never use this deck again - nothing personal against its creator.  I just cannot stand the lack of PC, SLOW starting, and general weakness to the more common Bronze decks.  UGH!  It is my sincere hope these results drop this off the "spoiler" level of decks in the OP... ... ... :/

Edits to my previous post indicated here in yellow.  Special attention to the TTW instead of total turns to play.
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Re: Decks Used Against Arena with Stats 1.32 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45840.msg1123155#msg1123155
« Reply #490 on: January 26, 2014, 08:13:11 am »
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Excuse the double-post, please.  ?_?

I finished a min-50 game run I began 8 months ago.  :D

I started it here and finished it now.  Summary of stats as follows:

Against Bronze:
Wins: 37
Loss: 15
EM: 1
TTW: 8.27
SS: 4

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I think the longest game - win or lose - was 11 turns so this is definitely speedy to play.
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Re: Decks Used Against Arena with Stats 1.32 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45840.msg1123721#msg1123721
« Reply #491 on: January 29, 2014, 04:20:13 am »
OP updated with all valid tests through this post.

Additionally, due to an update to the UEI formula, all UEI values in the OP have been updated, and are hopefully much more accurate now.

As a side note, this study includes 12223 games spread across 115 different entries.

 

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