Decks Used Against Arena with Stats 1.32

[GiantFrog]

Thanks, I was curious about it because I dont recall it from before thats all. It killed me because I did so.

[CuCN]

Singularity was added in 1.30 to balance excessive Nova/Supernova use.

[Keolino]

Setting aside whether psiontal has actually fallen that much in win rate against bronze, there's a number of other good options that require no shards (and work with no rares) that are fully unupped. I would recommend monodark (swapping the stiletto for another pillar/drain life/steal/etc if you don't have one) or antabow (swapping the arsenics for poisons if you don't have them).

I experienced that the amount of PsionDim-Decks in Bronze arena increased. Since your own dim shields are pretty useless against it, it can cause problems and probably a drop of win-rate. Since I wanted to upgrade a Psiontal for myself (and for Bronze/Silver) I will test the unupped deck today (as soon as I get home) and will probably post the results. Although I don't know if I will play a full set of 50 games.

[ColorlessGreen]

Setting aside whether psiontal has actually fallen that much in win rate against bronze, there's a number of other good options that require no shards (and work with no rares) that are fully unupped. I would recommend monodark (swapping the stiletto for another pillar/drain life/steal/etc if you don't have one) or antabow (swapping the arsenics for poisons if you don't have them).

I experienced that the amount of PsionDim-Decks in Bronze arena increased. Since your own dim shields are pretty useless against it, it can cause problems and probably a drop of win-rate. Since I wanted to upgrade a Psiontal for myself (and for Bronze/Silver) I will test the unupped deck today (as soon as I get home) and will probably post the results. Although I don't know if I will play a full set of 50 games.

FWIW when I did the unupped psiontal tests we had already reached a good deal of aether saturation in bronze. I find that psiontal actually beats most psion decks in bronze (i.e. without double draw) right out of the box due to the AI being more or less incompetent with fractal and therefore being able to just outrush them.

If you are finding that psiontal loses to psion-based aether frequently, I would highly recommend adding in a lobo or two or adding in some of the lightnings that are common in pvp psiontal decks. Both of those will go a long ways in tipping the scale in your favor against opposing psions. Of course, neither will help against the more traditional mono aether (which I find a lot more common than psion MA in bronze), but you should be beating that anyways unless it packs SoW (which isn't that common in bronze). SoW-based mono aether is just gonna be a loss barring RNG letting you outrush.



edit: On a totally unrelated topic, since nobody seems to be leaping at my request that someone besides me do some tests, I'm finally submitting FEVER to the thread. Still would love it if someone else took some full stats.

Tests are in bronze/upped (and are the exact same tests I mentioned in the deck's thread).

FEVER, By ColorlessGreen, Submitted by ColorlessGreen
W: 99   L: 1   WR: 99.00%   TTW: 9.13   EM: 4/99   EMR: 4.04%   UEI: 2375.76   SSPH: 7.08

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[Keolino]

well, I tested the unupped Psiontal in the OP (bronze) now. Wins: 22, Losses: 8 Winrate: 73,33 %, TTW: 12,64

As expected, it's far above the 50 %. Maybe the win-rate will be a bit more if further tested, since I was quite unlucky every time I lost. (Most of the time, I only lost by one turn....) I didn't modify the deck, and I probably won't play with psiontal anymore, since the lack of speed kills my patience

[ColorlessGreen]

I probably won't play with psiontal anymore, since the lack of speed kills my patience

Worth noting that the lack of speed also kills the special spins/hour (as compared to either monodark or antabow) even assuming 81% win rate.

Also worth noting that the difference between 73% and 81% win rate over 30 games is about two wins, so if you had a disproportionately high number of bad luck games, you'd probably wind up pretty close to ~80% through a longer test.

Finally, also worth noting that you're only 20 more games away from an OP-includable test, so if you can bring yourself to do another 20, we can have more detailed tests in the OP.

[Keolino]

Finally, also worth noting that you're only 20 more games away from an OP-includable test, so if you can bring yourself to do another 20, we can have more detailed tests in the OP.

Yeah, I know... I will look it up tomorrow, 20 games isn't that much.

[laxnut90]

This deck is fairly good against the Platinum Arena. 

Refraction Index
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,46476.msg1037767.html#msg1037767
NOTE: The stats on this thread are from several months ago.  I will do some testing over the weekend to produce more current stats.

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I usually alternate between Refraction Index and Poison Dials depending on the decks in the arena.  Oftentimes, Refraction Index can counter decks that are strong against Poison Dials and visa-versa.

[laxnut90]

This thread contains a compilation of many Shard Of Patience decks used against the arena:
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,51719.0.html

From this thread, I would also like to recommend the deck Brave Malignant Ball that Could by Keeps.

Keeps's Profile: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=5444

Brave Malignant Ball that Could

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Deck Thread: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,48157.0.html

[GiantFrog]

im willing to do tests on decks, but they have to be shardless and pretty much not upped. So anything that is new player friendly card wise and  shardless im willing to do. Also Antabow works wonders still atleast unupped version does.

[ColorlessGreen]

im willing to do tests on decks, but they have to be shardless and pretty much not upped. So anything that is new player friendly card wise and  shardless im willing to do. Also Antabow works wonders still atleast unupped version does.

If you're looking for suggestions, the thing we need most (IMO) that fits your criteria is a full test (i.e. including TTW/EMs) of unupped monodark in bronze.

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[GiantFrog]

Ill jump on it since I dont have better things to do atm and have too much free time.