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Re: Decks Used Against Arena with Stats 1.32 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45840.msg1077271#msg1077271
« Reply #300 on: June 04, 2013, 07:04:03 pm »
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Just did a run in bronze with this Regen2k9's mono-dark and was happily surprised at how quickly and smoothly it went.  Here are the stats:

W: 41, L: 9; 82%, TTW:11.56, EM: 9

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I would definitely recommend this to Newbs farming for rares.   It's a nice deck that stands a chance against almost everything.

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Mono-dark - always a good choice if looking to have a chance against whatever may oppose.  When a new player or new-to-Arena-grinding-player (i.e. - not many shards/rares) asks what to farm with for rares in Arena I suggest mono-dark, specifically regen2k9's Mono-Dark!

Lacking my Arena grinding stat file handy, the 41-9 11.56 TTW seems on par with my experiences a while back in 200+ Bronze matches with it.
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Re: Decks Used Against Arena with Stats 1.32 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45840.msg1077282#msg1077282
« Reply #301 on: June 04, 2013, 07:35:24 pm »
Just because I'm obligated to mention it whenever anyone mentions the unupped monodark, this is for the less wealthy players:

If you do not own a stiletto, the deck works just fine without it. The stiletto can be replaced with an extra pillar (or an extra drain life, or a dusk mantle, or whatever you want) without significantly affecting the deck's success.

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Re: Decks Used Against Arena with Stats 1.32 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45840.msg1077295#msg1077295
« Reply #302 on: June 04, 2013, 08:07:54 pm »
Regarding the Mono-dark and the rare Stiletto - as ColorlessGreen points out, you don't HAVE to have a Stiletto (Stiletto is best if you do have, though).  Along with CG's suggestions, Dagger (if you don't mind possibly messing up a mulligan with a free weapon) or Short Sword (for mono-dark has same ATK as Dagger but 1 :rainbow cost avoids mulligan-screw).
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Re: Decks Used Against Arena with Stats 1.32 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45840.msg1077549#msg1077549
« Reply #303 on: June 05, 2013, 03:47:11 pm »
I heartily recommend using another Drain Life. The CC and damage it builds up to is worth more in a card space than any other card that's available, imo. I actually run it with 3 Steals and 5 Drains most of the time.
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Re: Decks Used Against Arena with Stats 1.32 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45840.msg1079818#msg1079818
« Reply #304 on: June 13, 2013, 10:15:48 am »
Is there a tool to make stats? I could help with some decks stats ...

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Re: Decks Used Against Arena with Stats 1.32 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45840.msg1079866#msg1079866
« Reply #305 on: June 13, 2013, 03:05:42 pm »
I just use openoffice/excel.

All you need to do to take stats for arena is to write down your total number of wins, losses, and (optionally, but highly preferred) turns to win (TTW) and EM rate. I do that by putting together three columns on a spreadsheet for each deck. Column 1 is Win/Loss, where I enter 1 for a win and 0 for a loss. Column 2 is TTW, where I enter TTW shown on the victory screen for every win (and leave it blank for losses). Column 3 is EM, where I enter a 1 for an EM and nothing for a non-EM. If you set it up like this, your win rate is (sum(column1)/count(column1)), your ttw is (average(column2)), and your EM rate is (sum(column3)/sum(column1)).

If you don't want to set up a spreadsheet (though it only takes like 30 seconds to set up), you can track stats with something as simple as a piece of paper where you just write down "W-7", "L", "W-9", "W-11-EM", "L", "W-10", etc, and then either do the math when you're done or even just go ahead and post the raw data.

edit: If you need more help setting up a stats tracking system, say so. I can post more detailed instructions if you want to use the spreadsheet version and aren't familiar with operating openoffice/excel.
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Re: Decks Used Against Arena with Stats 1.32 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45840.msg1079879#msg1079879
« Reply #306 on: June 13, 2013, 04:17:12 pm »
Is there a tool to make stats? I could help with some decks stats ...

ColorlessGreen has a valid method that is quite user friendly.  If you are looking for something a bit more in-depth and flexible, feel free to open and create your own editable copy of this GDoc spreadsheet of mine: LINK

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If you have questions, post here and I'll be glad to help with your use of that file.  (Note:  My first time sharing a GDoc so I checked a few boxes hoping to prevent you from editing my actual copy - if this has prevented simply saving as your own copy let me know and I'll try a different link/settings.)

Perhaps this will help too - an in-progress version of this spreadsheet with me using PDials and recording stats.  This shows how you can record stats in a single data-stream in one place and the spreadsheet will separate Arena levels, FG's, and other types of opponents faced.
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Re: Decks Used Against Arena with Stats 1.32 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45840.msg1079882#msg1079882
« Reply #307 on: June 13, 2013, 04:26:36 pm »
Hey, thanks for your advices. I'll have a look to the Gdoc since it might be usefull to have it within my browser. Else, I really like the pen and paper solution...

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Re: Decks Used Against Arena with Stats 1.32 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45840.msg1079887#msg1079887
« Reply #308 on: June 13, 2013, 04:56:45 pm »
Great topic. Helps a lot with grinding.

I recently did test in Silver with this deck:

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Results:

Won: 33
Lost:17
Winrate:67%
EM: 25
EM rate: 50%
TTW: 28.85  :o
Special spins: 4

The games are slow( average TTW: 12 minutes) but fun as most of the time they are different. Also strategy depends on what card are available. I only play Elements for 3 months and it is great deck to learn different styles of play.

Given that decks in Arena are loaded with denial cards Sanctuary is crucial. The good thing is that AI targets  other permanents (Steal, Deflagration) first so Sanctuary is pretty safe most of the time. It`s similar with Mindgate. So Hourglasses have double role. As hasteners and  shields for other crucial permanents. PA is for Eternity.

Max HP with 3 GS are 322 and it gives 294 electrum for a win.

I plan to test it in Gold now as I had some success there before.




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Re: Decks Used Against Arena with Stats 1.32 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45840.msg1080040#msg1080040
« Reply #309 on: June 14, 2013, 06:18:48 am »
Results:

Won: 33
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Winrate:67%
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EM rate: 50%
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Minor correction:  EM rate = # of EMs / # of wins = 25 / 33 = 76%
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Re: Decks Used Against Arena with Stats 1.32 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45840.msg1080922#msg1080922
« Reply #310 on: June 17, 2013, 04:26:28 pm »
Thanks for the correction.

So i run 50 games test in gold and results are not that great unfortunately. I made 3 or 4 big mistakes so it could be bit better but all in all I think 50 % win rate is maximum that can be achieved with this deck. Although as I mentioned I`m fairly new to elements so maybe more experienced players could get much better results.

Games:50
Won: 20
Lost:30
Winrate: 40%
EM: 12
EM rate: 60%
TTW: 28.1

Anyway it`s still great fun and when it`s winning the wins are epic.

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Re: Decks Used Against Arena with Stats 1.32 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45840.msg1082291#msg1082291
« Reply #311 on: June 23, 2013, 09:29:51 am »
Hello.
I did a 100 games test in plat with Swallow:
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Games: 100
Won: 53
Lost:47
Win Ratio: 53%
EM: 30
EM Ratio: 56.6%
TTW: 16
Average EM TTW: 17
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