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hrmmm · « **on:** December 07, 2010, 01:28:02 pm »

What is ttw?

ttw = Turns to Win
That means the amount of (own) turns a deck needs to win a game.
One turn means, every time you end a turn, by pressing the spacebar or clicking "done".

How to take statisics for a deck vs. ai3:

- Get approval from an official tester before examining a deck. We request that you test 50 games yourself to gauge speed before we give it an 'official' test.
- Every game needs to be played until the end. Skipping or aborting bad looking games is not allowed.
- Every game needs to be played as best as you can. You should try to win every game, even if it looks like a loss.
- Every deck should be played as fast (in turns) as you can.
- Please test on low quality with AI speed set to high.
- It will be helpful to the community if you note starting and ending electrum and score values so we get a rough estimate of deck efficiency.
- Lost games dont count for average ttw. -> Avg ttw =summation of turns/amount of won games
- Our goal is 200 tested games for every deck.
- Please dont post statistics for decks you designed/posted by yourself. Any statistic will be more trustworthy, if its been tested from a "neutral" player. *This is only for a 200 game/official test. If you believe a deck you designed is deserving of being tested, then 50 games tested by yourself is okay.
- Currently jmdt, hrmmm, willng3, thatnewguy, pikachufan2164, and Jappert are official testers (if I missed anyone let me or willng3 know)

Please Post your Statistics in this form:

Deckname:

Games: x

Avg ttw: x

Avg. sec/game: x

Wins: x

Losses: x

Ems: x

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If you like, you can use this spreed sheet:
the copy paste friendly test sheet

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Score gained: x
Electrum gained: x
Time overall (min.): x
Sec/Turn: x
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ttw 3: 0
ttw 4: 0
ttw 5: 0
ttw 6: 0
ttw 7: 0
ttw 8: 0
ttw 9: 0
ttw 10: 0
ttw 11: 0
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Thanks for testing, and have fun

hrmmm · « **Reply #1 on:** December 08, 2010, 12:32:45 pm »

Unupgraded decks

Grabbix

Games: 200

Avg ttw: 6.968

Avg. sec/game: 67.550

Wins: 190 (95.0%)

Losses: 10

Ems: 12 (6.3%)

posted by - willng3

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Ubah Stompy

Games: 200

Avg. TTW: 7.122

Avg. sec/game: 71.650

Wins: 181 (90.5%)

Losses: 19

Ems: 12 (6.6%)

posted by - willng3

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Mono Life Rush

Games: 200

Avg ttw: 7.769

Avg. sec/game: 72.905

Wins: 160 (80.0%)

Losses: 40

Ems: 9 (5.6%)

posted by - willng3

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Unupped Shrieker Rush

Games: 200

Avg ttw: 8.01

Avg. sec/game: 69.62

Wins: 163 (81.5%)

Losses: 37

Ems: 6 (3.7%)

posted by - Bhlewos

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PvP Graboid Rainbow

Games: 200

Avg ttw: 8.651

Avg. sec/game: 74.160

Wins: 195 (97.50%)

Losses: 5

EMs: 9 (4.62%)

posted by - pikachufan2164

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Pepoker (UUSEM)

Games: 200

Avg ttw: 9.842

Avg. sec/game: 103.550

Wins: 158 (79.0%)

Losses: 42

Ems: 76 (48.1%)

posted by - willng3

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willng3 · « **Reply #2 on:** February 28, 2011, 05:11:35 pm »

Upgraded decks

Powerful Wyrms (Air Rush)

Games: 203

Avg. ttw: 5.522

Avg. sec/game: -

Wins: 200 (98.5%)

Losses: 3

Ems: -

posted by - willng3 | Updated by - QuantumT

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My Balls can go BOOOOM!!

Games: 200

Avg. ttw: 5.730

Avg. sec/game: 56.705

Wins: 189 (94.5%)

Losses: 11

Ems: 31 (16.4%)

posted by - willng3

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Damsels in Distress: The Best of Both Wyrms

Games: 200

Avg ttw: 5.904

Avg. sec/game: 59.180

Wins: 187 (93.5%)

Losses: 13

Ems: 25 (13.4%)

posted by - willng3

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Immogavel

Games: 200

Avg ttw: 5.941

Avg. sec/game: 54.640

Wins: 188 (94.0%)

Losses: 12

Ems: 22 (11.7%)

posted by - willng3

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Fire Lava Destroyer Rush Ver. 2

Games: 200

Avg ttw: 5.948

Avg. sec/game: 56.950

Wins: 194 (97.0%)

Losses: 6

Ems: 18 (9.3%)

posted by - willng3

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Burning Phoenix

Games: 200

Avg ttw: 6.010

Avg. sec/game: 57.155

Wins: 194 (97.0%)

Losses: 6

Ems: 23 (11.9%)

posted by - willng3

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Frogs, and Epi's, and Swords, Oh My!!!

Games: 200

Avg. ttw: 6.052

Avg. sec/game: 53.290

Wins: 194 (97.0%)

Losses: 6

Ems: 17 (8.8%)

posted by - willng3

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.........And Slightly Faster!

Games: 200

Avg ttw: 6.126

Avg. sec/game: 56.635

Wins: 191 (95.5%)

Losses: 9

Ems: 26 (13.6%)

posted by - willng3

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Mono-Earth Shrieker Rush

Games: 200

Avg. ttw: 6.134

Avg. sec/game: 52.140

Wins: 193 (96.5%)

Losses: 7

Ems: 24 (12.4%)

posted by - willng3

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Da Fastest Speedbow Eva!:

Games: 200

Avg ttw: 6.166

Avg. sec/game: 54.933

Wins: 193 (96.5%)

Losses: 7

Ems: 11 (5.7%)

posted by - Jappert

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Lava Rush vNG 2.0

Games: 200

Avg ttw: 6.264

Avg. sec/game: 58.385

Wins: 197 (98.5%)

Losses: 3

Ems: 20 (10.2%)

posted by - willng3

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Frogtal

Games: 200

Avg. ttw: 6.337

Avg. sec/game: 59.885

Wins: 184 (92.0%)

Losses: 16

Ems: 16 (8.7%)

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Mummies Riding Toxic Spiders

Games: 200

Avg ttw: 6.670

Avg. sec/game: 53.050

Wins: 197 (98.5%)

Losses: 3

Ems: 9 (4.6%)

posted by - willng3

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'Time' to rush

Games: 200

Avg ttw: 6.848

Avg. sec/game: 63.185

Wins: 191 (95.5%)

Losses: 9

Ems: 15 (7.9%)

posted by - willng3

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Little Miss Fire [t50][pvp2]

Games: 200

Avg. ttw: 7.010

Avg. sec/game: 80.250

Wins: 188 (94.0%)

Losses: 12

EMs: 15 (8.0%)

posted by - kirchj33

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The Ultimate Speed EM Deck (USEM)

Games: 200

Avg. ttw: 7.223

Avg. sec/game: 62.135

Wins: 193 (96.5%)

Losses: 7

Ems: 148 (76.7%)

posted by - willng3

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Mummy...Get a Life!!!:

Games: 200

Avg ttw: 7.319

Avg. sec/game: 56.03

Wins: 191 (95.5%)

Losses: 9

Ems: 126 (66.0%)

posted by - Jenkar

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Phoenixplosion! Quite Literally!

Games: 200

Avg ttw: 7.355

Avg. sec/game: 78.420

Wins: 186 (93.0%)

Losses: 14

Ems: 8 (4.3%)

posted by - willng3

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SCEM: SuperCharg'EM:

Games: 200

Avg ttw: 7.415

Avg. sec/game: 62.155

Wins: 193 (96.5%)

Losses: 7

Ems: 112 (58.0%)

posted by - Jappert

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TADAbow - AI3 Domination, Rainbow style (no Precog variant)

Games: 200

Avg ttw: 7.834

Avg. sec/game: 67.240

Wins: 199 (99.5%)

Losses: 1

EMs: 167 (83.9%)

posted by - pikachufan2164

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Giant Amphibi'EM v2.0 (-1 CP, -1 Phoenix, +2 Explosion variant):

Games: 200

Avg ttw: 7.836

Avg. sec/game: 72.900

Wins: 183 (91.5%)

Losses: 17

EMs: 113 (61.7%)

posted by - pikachufan2164

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Totally Upgraded AI3 Mastery Despoiler:

Games: 200

Avg ttw: 8.249

Avg. sec/game: 67.99

Wins: 193 (96.5%)

Losses: 7

Ems: 114 (59.1%)

posted by - MrBlonde

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Vader Sader

Games: 200

Avg ttw: 8.467

Avg. sec/game: 80.195

Wins: 184 (92.0%)

Losses: 16

Ems: 127 (69.0%)

posted by - willng3

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Upgraded AI3 EM Grinder (Mono Darkness)[Ver 1.26]:

Games: 200

Avg ttw: 9.531

Avg. sec/game: 80.168

Wins: 196 (98.0%)

Losses: 4

Ems: 154 (78.6%)

posted by - Jappert

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Jappert · « **Reply #3 on:** February 28, 2011, 05:48:28 pm »

Already told you in chat, I got alot of time on my hands to do some testing.
I've never done it before though so if you pm me with instructions that'd be great.
Just assign me to a deck to test and I'll do the work. Easiest would be one of your rainbow variations, since I got all of those upgraded.

Decided to post here in case you forgot who offered the help.

Running tests on:
~~Da Fastest Speedbow Eva!~~

TimerClock14 · « **Reply #4 on:** February 28, 2011, 09:12:14 pm »

<_< the 1.26 version was started not even 4 months ago.....I feel like I'm trying to keep up with the latest generation of iPod with this little study of yours, jimmy.

*sigh* well, I guess I'll start cooking up some decks to feed this one with

thatnewguy · « **Reply #5 on:** February 28, 2011, 09:13:52 pm »

I'll work on speed poison and mono death. (stats to come)

TheCrazyMango · « **Reply #6 on:** March 01, 2011, 12:55:09 am »

Ill give you some previously untested decks to test.
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,21351.0.html
testing both would be appreciated

pikachufan2164 · « **Reply #7 on:** March 01, 2011, 01:17:32 am »

I'm ready to test decks, but my computer isn't very well-suited for testing with high-speed AI

Let's hope that we can work out a solution that doesn't involve me buying a new computer

willng3 · « **Reply #8 on:** March 01, 2011, 01:20:20 am »

Quote from: pikachufan2164 on March 01, 2011, 01:17:32 am

I'm ready to test decks, but my computer isn't very well-suited for testing with high-speed AI

Let's hope that we can work out a solution that doesn't involve me buying a new computer

Yes, this isn't the first report of this sort I've heard. Perhaps we could include a note in the stats whether or not high speed was used during testing. In regards to TTW itself, it doesn't really matter, but it is a rather important bit of info for many players.

TheIdioticIdiot · « **Reply #9 on:** March 01, 2011, 01:25:35 am »

Quote from: willng3 on March 01, 2011, 01:20:20 am

Quote from: pikachufan2164 on March 01, 2011, 01:17:32 am
I'm ready to test decks, but my computer isn't very well-suited for testing with high-speed AI

Let's hope that we can work out a solution that doesn't involve me buying a new computer
Yes, this isn't the first report of this sort I've heard. Perhaps we could include a note in the stats whether or not high speed was used during testing. In regards to TTW itself, it doesn't really matter, but it is a rather important bit of info for many players.

that's why I will be starting a theory about pure speed AI3 farming vs EM AI3 farming this weekend (need about 4~5 hours of testing)

willng3 · « **Reply #10 on:** March 01, 2011, 04:25:42 am »

Yay first set of stats done. AI setting on high speed.

The Ultimate Speed EM Deck (USEM) (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,10563.0.html)

Games: 200

Avg. TTW: 7.223

Avg. sec/game: 62.135

Wins: 193

Losses: 7

Ems: 148

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6rk 6rk 7ac 7ac 7ac 7ac 7ac 7ae 7ae 7ae 7ae 7ae 7ae 7ag 7ag 7ag 7ag 7ag 7ag 7ai 7ai 7ai 7ai 7ai 7ai 7bu 7bu 7bu 7bu 7buGames:   200

avg. Sec/Game:   62.135
Sec/Turn:   8.402298851
Clicks/Game:   11.875
Clicks/Turn:   1.60581474
Score/Min:   28.44290657
Electrum/Min:   32.01577211

Time overall (min.):   207.117
Wins:   193
Ems:   148
Losses:   7
Score:   5891
Electrum:   6631
Avg ttw:   7.223

ttw 3:   0
ttw 4:   0
ttw 5:   23
ttw 6:   71
ttw 7:   39
ttw 8:   20
ttw 9:   15
ttw 10:   10
ttw 11:   5
ttw 12:   4
ttw 13:   5
ttw 14:   0
ttw 15:   0
ttw 16:   0
ttw 17: 1

Rather long games against the Mono Aether elder. Most of these generally resulted in losses or an abnormally long win as seen by the 17TTW. The

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Elder is a rather unexpected surprise now; it knows how to use its Red Nymph properly and with devastating efficiency as well. With the high speed setting, the best score grinder just got a whole lot better.

Jappert · « **Reply #11 on:** March 01, 2011, 01:46:06 pm »

Da Fastest Speedbow Eva!: (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,11757.0.html)

Games: 200

Avg ttw: 6,166

Avg. sec/game: 54,933

Wins: 193

Losses: 7

Ems: 11

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6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 713 713 745 77g 77g 7ai 7ai 7ai 7ds 7ds 7gm 7n0 7n6 7qb 7qb 7qb 7tb 7td 80g

Score gained: 3492
Electrum gained: 4627
Time overall (min.): 176,7
Sec/Turn: 8,909
Score/Min: 19,762
Electrum/Min: 26,186

ttw 3: 0
ttw 4: 9
ttw 5: 61
ttw 6: 61
ttw 7: 32
ttw 8: 14
ttw 9: 13
ttw 10: 3
ttw 11: 0
ttw 12: 0
ttw 13: 0
ttw 14: 0
ttw 15: 0
ttw 16: 0
ttw 17: 0
ttw 18: 0
ttw 19: 0
ttw 20: 0

The mono aether elder totally destroyed me a few times. Chaining shields owns this deck (esp with your charger lobo'ed). Only thing that saves you in those cases is an UG...

Other reasons for losses:
- Early momentumed Oty + slow start for me.
- No Towers for me + 2nd turn discord for opp, I lost without dealing damage!
- CC + Ice Shield.
- Terrible luck vs Dusk Shield + Vamp Dagger + Pandemonium.

Tested on high-speed AI.

(changed the wins manually, to include the EM's aswell)

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hrmmm

[OUTDATED - v1.27] turns to win study 3.0 (version 1.27) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17173.msg218809#msg218809

hrmmm

Re: turns to win study 3.0 (version 1.27) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17173.msg219448#msg219448

willng3

Re: turns to win study 3.0 (version 1.27) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17173.msg280368#msg280368

Jappert

Re: turns to win study 3.0 (version 1.27) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17173.msg280382#msg280382

TimerClock14

Re: turns to win study 3.0 (version 1.27) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17173.msg280458#msg280458

thatnewguy

Re: turns to win study 3.0 (version 1.27) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17173.msg280460#msg280460

TheCrazyMango

Re: turns to win study 3.0 (version 1.27) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17173.msg280622#msg280622

pikachufan2164

Re: turns to win study 3.0 (version 1.27) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17173.msg280633#msg280633

willng3

Re: turns to win study 3.0 (version 1.27) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17173.msg280636#msg280636

TheIdioticIdiot

Re: turns to win study 3.0 (version 1.27) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17173.msg280646#msg280646

willng3

Re: turns to win study 3.0 (version 1.27) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17173.msg280745#msg280745

Jappert

Re: turns to win study 3.0 (version 1.27) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17173.msg280903#msg280903