[OUTDATED] Turns to win study

[willng3]

@kev: That looks really fast, I'll add it to my list of decks to test

@lukce:  You need to test all decks in AI3 that are posted here or else your results will be considered void.  Reason being that 1)  No other decks have been tested in T50 and so it would not be able to be used for comparison due to complete difference in playing styles 2)  because of the amounts of farms up we cannot rely on user submitted statistics and 3)  compensating for farms means that we have to manually edit the rate of electrum/score per hour in order to get a realistic idea of duels against actual opponents which in turn also leaves more room for error on our part.

[jmdt]

Yeah, after the war slows down, we have a long list of decks that need testing.  I need to scam through and post a list of decks that need evaluated.  I also need to update the 1st post when I have time.

[lukce]

Ok now...I think this is wrong but Napalm did the maths....you know that she is the maths girl

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4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 6u1 713 77g 7ae 7ae 7dp 7dp 7dp 7dp 7dp 7dq 7dq 7dq 7dq 7ds 7ds 7ds 7ds 7jp 7jp 7jp 7jp 7jr 7tb 80gNow ttw turns out to be 5....No losts in 50 games and 9 EMs
ttw 4: 12
ttw 5: 29
ttw 6:7
ttw 7: 1
ttw 8: 1

I am not sure if maths is done well so....please correct me if I am incorrect

[willng3]

And you did this in AI3?  36 minutes ago you were testing in T50, and now these stats have been posted.  It's not humanly possible for any deck to play 50 games in 25 minutes with these ttw values.  Sorry, but I'm finding this difficult to accept.

[lukce]

Seriousley I find ttw=5 difficult but I swear I played 50 games against AI3 and with these stats

[willng3]

The following stats have been calculated for the following:

Grabbix (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,16828.0/topicseen.html)

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4vh 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 52q 590 590 590 590 590 5c1 5f9 5f9 5f9 5f9 5f9 5f9 5fc 5fc 5fc 5fc 5fc 5fc 5l9 5l9 5l9 5l9 5l9 5l9
Games(AI3):   200
   
avg. Sec/Game:   69.635
Sec/Turn:   10.21041056
Clicks/Game:   16.135
Clicks/Turn:   2.365835777
Score/Min:   13.61384361
Electrum/Min:   13.6569254

Time overall (min.):   232.117
Wins:   192
Ems:   2
Losses:   8
Score:   3160
Electrum:   3170
Avg ttw:   6.714
   
ttw Details:   
ttw 3:   0
ttw 4:   0
ttw 5:   22
ttw 6:   75
ttw 7:   54
ttw 8:   25
ttw 9:   10
ttw 10:   5
ttw 11:   1
ttw 12:   0
ttw 13:   0
ttw 14:   0
ttw 15:   0
ttw 16:   0
This deck beats out Ubah Stompy by approximately 0.281 turns.  I hereby crown kevkev as the new unupped TTW champion

[jmdt]

This deck beats out Ubah Stompy by approximately 0.281 turns.  I hereby crown kevkev as the new unupped TTW champion

I seriously need to take the time to update the ttw thread this weekend.  gratz for 1st kev.

[willng3]

I thought I would make this official:  I seem to have made an error when posting my stats for Pillarless:  The Creation of Life.  It's TTW value makes it much faster than before.  To make sure that I did not make the same mistake for any other stats I have posted here, I have gone back through and painstakingly checked them thoroughly for inaccuracies.  Most of you will be pleased when I say that I found none.  Sorry for the confusion.

[jmdt]

So yeah, I updated the first post, but I'm sure there are 2 or 3 deck that may still be missing.  I will look at it closer later.

Grabbix now has its spot at the top.

[willng3]

Brick Eater Cremator (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,15196.0.html)

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4vj 4vj 5f2 5f2 6rk 7dg 7dg 7dg 7dh 7dh 7dh 7dh 7dh 7dp 7dp 7dp 7dp 7dp 7dq 7dq 7dq 7dq 7dq 7dq 7ds 7ds 7ds 80a 80a 80a
Games:   200
   
avg. Sec/Game:   64.680
Sec/Turn:   10.29936306
Clicks/Game:   14.685
Clicks/Turn:   2.338375796
Score/Min:   15.5890538
Electrum/Min:   15.68181818
   
Time overall (min.):   215.600
Wins:   196
Ems:   4
Losses:   4
Score:   3361
Electrum:   3381
Avg ttw:   6.230
   
ttw Details:   
ttw 3:   0
ttw 4:   9
ttw 5:   59
ttw 6:   62
ttw 7:   34
ttw 8:   17
ttw 9:   8
ttw 10:   6
ttw 11:   0
ttw 12:   1
ttw 13:   0
ttw 14:   0
ttw 15:   0
ttw 16:   0

[zse]

Brick Eater Cremator (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,15196.0.html)

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4vj 4vj 5f2 5f2 6rk 7dg 7dg 7dg 7dh 7dh 7dh 7dh 7dh 7dp 7dp 7dp 7dp 7dp 7dq 7dq 7dq 7dq 7dq 7dq 7ds 7ds 7ds 80a 80a 80a
Games:   200
   
avg. Sec/Game:   64.680
Sec/Turn:   10.29936306
Clicks/Game:   14.685
Clicks/Turn:   2.338375796
Score/Min:   15.5890538
Electrum/Min:   15.68181818
   
Time overall (min.):   215.600
Wins:   196
Ems:   4
Losses:   4
Score:   3361
Electrum:   3381
Avg ttw:   6.230
   
ttw Details:   
ttw 3:   0
ttw 4:   9
ttw 5:   59
ttw 6:   62
ttw 7:   34
ttw 8:   17
ttw 9:   8
ttw 10:   6
ttw 11:   0
ttw 12:   1
ttw 13:   0
ttw 14:   0
ttw 15:   0
ttw 16:   0

Only 6,230? Did you play it correctly, using Minor Phoenix as primary Cremation target instead of Brimestone Eater? If you take out B.Eaters, you end up having too little for Dragons & Destroyers, thus having slower games.

[willng3]

Brick Eater Cremator (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,15196.0.html)

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4vj 4vj 5f2 5f2 6rk 7dg 7dg 7dg 7dh 7dh 7dh 7dh 7dh 7dp 7dp 7dp 7dp 7dp 7dq 7dq 7dq 7dq 7dq 7dq 7ds 7ds 7ds 80a 80a 80a
Games:   200
   
avg. Sec/Game:   64.680
Sec/Turn:   10.29936306
Clicks/Game:   14.685
Clicks/Turn:   2.338375796
Score/Min:   15.5890538
Electrum/Min:   15.68181818
   
Time overall (min.):   215.600
Wins:   196
Ems:   4
Losses:   4
Score:   3361
Electrum:   3381
Avg ttw:   6.230
   
ttw Details:   
ttw 3:   0
ttw 4:   9
ttw 5:   59
ttw 6:   62
ttw 7:   34
ttw 8:   17
ttw 9:   8
ttw 10:   6
ttw 11:   0
ttw 12:   1
ttw 13:   0
ttw 14:   0
ttw 15:   0
ttw 16:   0

Only 6,230? Did you play it correctly, using Minor Phoenix as primary Cremation target instead of Brimestone Eater? If you take out B.Eaters, you end up having too little for Dragons & Destroyers, thus having slower games.

Yes I'm absolutely positive I played it correctly; I run 50-100 pretest games to make sure that I understand how to maximize the speed potential of any deck I'm given to test and I did no different here.  The main factor that slowed this deck down was a combination of both CC and fair to bad starting hands; I made no mistakes here.