[OUTDATED] Turns to win study

[guolin]

more stats for No Land Stompy

avg. ttw: 7.42 (200 games)

em: 4
losses: 18

ttw 5: 10
ttw 6: 50
ttw 7: 43
ttw 8: 38
ttw 9: 23
ttw 10: 12
ttw 11: 4
ttw 12: 1
ttw 13: 1 (i thought this isnt even possible without losing^^)

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Just to show how much the stats can change after a few games:
50: 5.160 ttw 100: 5.404 ttw 150: 5.557 ttw 200: 5.480 ttw
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i hade a similar difference here:
avg.ttw for each 50 games: 7.67 - 7.28 - 7.45 - 7.28
thats about 0.4 turn difference.
there are quite a few variables that can slow down or speed up your deck if you fight ai3.
so please take teh number of 50 with cautions;).

oh... and here just a example for how ai3 can "slow" you a bit:


im going on, with the mono death and mono light rush, both seems to be pretty equal in speed on the long therme so far.
i will post the stats if i finished 200 each.

Hmm...I got right about 7.0 for about 30+ games (can't remember off the top of my head). Someone told me I shouldn't continue testing it, so I stopped. Personally, I think No Land Stompy CAN get the 6.9 plastiqe claimed with some rushy shortcuts. (e.g. using Rage Potion on Lycanthrope, Immolation on Fire Spirits - whatever that can speed it up)

[hrmmm]

Hmm...I got right about 7.0 for about 30+ games (can't remember off the top of my head). Someone told me I shouldn't continue testing it, so I stopped. Personally, I think No Land Stompy CAN get the 6.9 plastiqe claimed with some rushy shortcuts. (e.g. using Rage Potion on Lycanthrope, Immolation on Fire Spirits - whatever that can speed it up)

i think i know how to play this deck and his "shortcuts" (dont like this therm, because the things you are listing are just way this deck works) and i know the potential of the ai3's cc.

maybe i managed to win a bit more in hard games (10+ ttw). this  can have quite a impact on the stats (just replace a loss with 10ttw to see how a 50 game stat grows up).

like i stated, 50 games stats can easy have a +- 0.4tw spreed.

[guolin]

Hmm...I got right about 7.0 for about 30+ games (can't remember off the top of my head). Someone told me I shouldn't continue testing it, so I stopped. Personally, I think No Land Stompy CAN get the 6.9 plastiqe claimed with some rushy shortcuts. (e.g. using Rage Potion on Lycanthrope, Immolation on Fire Spirits - whatever that can speed it up)

i think i know how to play this deck and his "shortcuts" (dont like this therm, because the things you are listing are just way this deck works) and i know the potential of the ai3's cc.

maybe i managed to win a bit more in hard games (10+ ttw). this  can have quite a impact on the stats (just replace a loss with 10ttw to see how a 50 game stat grows up).

like i stated, 50 games stats can easy have a +- 0.4tw spreed.

Aye, want to test the deck together? Also, you remember me from Kong, yes?

[ratchetspyro94]

Hmm...I got right about 7.0 for about 30+ games (can't remember off the top of my head). Someone told me I shouldn't continue testing it, so I stopped. Personally, I think No Land Stompy CAN get the 6.9 plastiqe claimed with some rushy shortcuts. (e.g. using Rage Potion on Lycanthrope, Immolation on Fire Spirits - whatever that can speed it up)

i think i know how to play this deck and his "shortcuts" (dont like this therm, because the things you are listing are just way this deck works) and i know the potential of the ai3's cc.

maybe i managed to win a bit more in hard games (10+ ttw). this  can have quite a impact on the stats (just replace a loss with 10ttw to see how a 50 game stat grows up).

like i stated, 50 games stats can easy have a +- 0.4tw spreed.

Aye, want to test the deck together? Also, you remember me from Kong, yes?

I remember you.

[hrmmm]

Aye, want to test the deck together? Also, you remember me from Kong, yes?

yup, ill meet you in the chat. then we can talk about ai3 deckstrategy

[hrmmm]

mono-death:

avg ttw: 8.14 (200 games)

em: 2
losses: 6

ttw 6: 2
ttw 7: 54
ttw 8: 81
ttw 9: 38
ttw 10: 12
ttw 11: 5
ttw 12: 2

avg.ttw for 50 games each: 8.00 -- 8.18 -- 8.20 -- 8.18

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52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52h 52h 52h 52h 52o 52o 52o 52o 52o 52o 52t 52t 52t 52t 52t 52tits not that speedy as posted before -- but a reliable ai3 grinder.
97% winning chance is impressiv, you can even take out grim looking opponents
a little example:

a side note about the statistics we are collecting here:
dont take the avgerage ttw. to serious.
its not a absolute determination of a deck speed.
as you see every deck has some 10+ ttws. this is more a indicator of the ai3 strenght, and how many lucky hands the ai had in a serie. but they slow down the average speed immense.

[xKelevra]

Yeah. I probably should have mentioned that I had A LOT of great starts and AI3 didn't really seem to control my creatures very much if at all.

[jmdt]

Updated xKelevra's speed rainbow for 200 games.

Just to show how much the stats can change after a few games:
50: 7.040 ttw 100: 7.091 ttw 150: 6.858 ttw 200: 6.804 ttw

ttw: 6.804

losses: 1

ttw5: 27
ttw6: 68
ttw7: 53
ttw8: 31
ttw9: 13
ttw10: 4
ttw11: 2
ttw12: 0
ttw13: 1

Next on the chopping block for update are frogtal, and vreely's upped fire rush, followed by the good, old fashioned shrieker rush.  Stay tuned: with 200 tests to stabilize results and remove luck from a small sample, the average can move by a decent amount.

[hermantheowl]

What format are these decks for? (pvp or t50 or AI3?)

[ratchetspyro94]

What format are these decks for? (pvp or t50 or AI3?)

You can use these decks for all of those but we tested them in AI3.

[hermantheowl]

I'm going to test this:

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Meant for top 50.
BAsed on unupped fire lava golems, similar to vreeley's deck. Picked this version for the extra Rage potion. Just took a beginner freindly lava golem deck upgraded it. Do I play at least 25 games vs AI3 or at least 50 games vs AI3?

[jmdt]

I'm going to test this:

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BAsed on unupped fire lava golems, similar to vreeley's deck. Picked this version for the extra Rage potion. Just took a beginner freindly lava golem deck upgraded it. Do I play at least 25 games vs AI3 or at least 50 games vs AI3?

At least 50 would be nice, but prefferably more games for better statisitcs.  I've started testing 200 games versus AI3 with good results.