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Re: Turns to win study https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8813.msg129660#msg129660
« Reply #96 on: August 02, 2010, 10:23:02 am »
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Re: Turns to win study https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8813.msg129708#msg129708
« Reply #97 on: August 02, 2010, 01:50:11 pm »
The deck image for Antagon's PvP Graboid Ranbow is wrong.

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Re: Turns to win study https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8813.msg129711#msg129711
« Reply #98 on: August 02, 2010, 01:53:48 pm »
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Whoa, that looks fun. I'm going to try that out in Trainer.

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Re: Turns to win study https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8813.msg129787#msg129787
« Reply #99 on: August 02, 2010, 04:37:49 pm »
Mono Life Adrenaline Rush Ver. 2

Since I love life, I did some experimentation to come up with faster upped mono life rush.  The old build came in at 6.36 and had no 4 turn win possibility.  After testing, I came up with a slightly faster build that has a small 4 turn win potential like a shrieker rush.  The change allowed me to shave 0.24 ttw from the fastest mono life deck.

This is probably the fastest possible build life can make.  I tried it with unupped frogs and it was not as fast.

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ttw: 6.120

losses: 0

4 ttw: 1
5 ttw: 17
6 ttw: 16
7 ttw: 10
8 ttw: 3
9 ttw: 3
So this would beat your mono-life EM deck in terms of winning faster, but would it overtake it in terms of electrum and score intake?

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Re: Turns to win study https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8813.msg129804#msg129804
« Reply #100 on: August 02, 2010, 05:15:40 pm »
I'd be inclined to say no to the electrum/score increase since both are tied to having EMs for increases in either. If the TTW ratio was below 6, then perhaps over the long run it might. However, even though other versions that run Heals would go off slighty slower they still pull off a lot more EMs thereby making up the difference. I figure since every EM is equivelant to just about 2 wins with 99hp or less (in terms of electrum and score), the super speed Life would have to do the same with regard to winning a lot more games in the same time frame of other versions that run Heals to make up the less EM difference.



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Re: Turns to win study https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8813.msg130157#msg130157
« Reply #101 on: August 03, 2010, 05:10:41 am »
Updated the OP with links for decks that have pages.

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Re: Turns to win study https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8813.msg130574#msg130574
« Reply #102 on: August 03, 2010, 11:54:49 pm »
me and hrmmm have decided to go back and get 200 stats for the decks posted to make them more accurate.  So it if statistics seem to changfe this is why.

The first deck I retested is ratchetspyro's upped mono death.

games: 200

ttw: 6.325

losses: 0

ttw5: 37
ttw6: 99
ttw7: 39
ttw8: 14
ttw9: 9
ttw10: 2

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ttw: 5.920

losses: 1

ttw4: 1
ttw5: 77
ttw6: 90
ttw7: 20
ttw8: 9
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Re: Turns to win study https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8813.msg130636#msg130636
« Reply #103 on: August 04, 2010, 12:47:38 am »
Hey jmdt so this is that mono life rush deck your telling me about looks Rad also its fast lol guess i got to upgrade some cards than hehe.
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Re: Turns to win study https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8813.msg131032#msg131032
« Reply #104 on: August 04, 2010, 03:27:22 pm »
Hey jmdt so this is that mono life rush deck your telling me about looks Rad also its fast lol guess i got to upgrade some cards than hehe.
Im trying to make the Life rush Em deck. It looks fun :D. I have 3 decks now. After i make this deck ill have 4.

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Re: Turns to win study https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8813.msg132027#msg132027
« Reply #105 on: August 05, 2010, 10:08:55 pm »
Updated fire rush version 3 for 200 games.

I didn't think it was as fast as posted and I was right.  None the less, the deck is still stupid fast.

Just to show how much the stats can change after a few games:
50: 5.160 ttw 100: 5.404 ttw 150: 5.557 ttw 200: 5.480 ttw

ttw: 5.480

losses: 3

ttw4: 42
ttw5: 81
ttw6: 47
ttw7: 13
ttw8: 9
ttw9: 5
ttw10: 1
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Re: Turns to win study https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8813.msg132078#msg132078
« Reply #106 on: August 05, 2010, 11:52:05 pm »
more stats for No Land Stompy

avg. ttw: 7.42 (200 games)

em: 4
losses: 18

ttw 5: 10
ttw 6: 50
ttw 7: 43
ttw 8: 38
ttw 9: 23
ttw 10: 12
ttw 11: 4
ttw 12: 1
ttw 13: 1 (i thought this isnt even possible without losing^^)

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Just to show how much the stats can change after a few games:
50: 5.160 ttw 100: 5.404 ttw 150: 5.557 ttw 200: 5.480 ttw
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i hade a similar difference here:
avg.ttw for each 50 games: 7.67 - 7.28 - 7.45 - 7.28
thats about 0.4 turn difference.
there are quite a few variables that can slow down or speed up your deck if you fight ai3.
so please take teh number of 50 with cautions;).

oh... and here just a example for how ai3 can "slow" you a bit:


im going on, with the mono death and mono light rush, both seems to be pretty equal in speed on the long therme so far.
i will post the stats if i finished 200 each.

Re: Turns to win study https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=8813.msg132082#msg132082
« Reply #107 on: August 05, 2010, 11:56:40 pm »
more stats for No Land Stompy

avg. ttw: 7.42 (200 games)

em: 4
losses: 18

ttw 5: 10
ttw 6: 50
ttw 7: 43
ttw 8: 38
ttw 9: 23
ttw 10: 12
ttw 11: 4
ttw 12: 1
ttw 13: 1 (i thought this isnt even possible without losing^^)

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Just to show how much the stats can change after a few games:
50: 5.160 ttw 100: 5.404 ttw 150: 5.557 ttw 200: 5.480 ttw
...
i hade a similar difference here:
avg.ttw for each 50 games: 7.67 - 7.28 - 7.45 - 7.28
thats about 0.4 turn difference.
there are quite a few variables that can slow down or speed up your deck if you fight ai3.
so please take teh number of 50 with cautions;).

oh... and here just a example for how ai3 can "slow" you a bit:


im going on, with the mono death and mono light rush, both seems to be pretty equal in speed on the long therme so far.
i will post the stats if i finished 200 each.
  HAHAHA game fail on screenshot.

 

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