[OUTDATED] Turns to win study

[jmdt]

Mono Death is starting to get boring for me but it can get pretty interesting. I finally uppgraded the Mono Death deck.

would be nice if we had some stats for this deck -- im wondering if its faster as my tested deck without dragons

Fragmentation and I calculated the fastest possible scenario for this deck and it includes 1 dragon.  2 spider, 1 spider, 1 dragon, 1 spider.

[ratchetspyro94]

Mono Death is starting to get boring for me but it can get pretty interesting. I finally uppgraded the Mono Death deck.

would be nice if we had some stats for this deck -- im wondering if its faster as my tested deck without dragons

Fragmentation and I calculated the fastest possible scenario for this deck and it includes 1 dragon.  2 spider, 1 spider, 1 dragon, 1 spider.

No idea what your talking about.

[ratchetspyro94]

Jmdt wanted me to do statistics on the Mono Death Deck that i made.

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710 710 710 710 710 710 710 710 710 710 710 711 711 713 713 713 713 713 713 718 718 718 718 718 718 71a 71d 71d 71d 71dttw 5.79

ttw 4 - 9
ttw 5 - 36
ttw 6 - 32
ttw 7 - 16
ttw 8 - 3
ttw 9 - 3
ttw 10 - 1

EM - 4

Win - 100

Loss - 0

[plastiqe]

This is an impressive body of work but I have a question as to the methods.  The point is to find the fastest deck, yes?  And by fastest decks you mean decks that can deal 100+ damage in the least amount of turns on the most consistant basis. 

So why use AI3 instead of AI1?  It's not an AI3 Farming Challenge, it just fast decks.. you'd be better off testing against a blank opponent with only 100hp, but since you can't... seems to me AI1 makes more sense than AI3.

[jmdt]

This is an impressive body of work but I have a question as to the methods.  The point is to find the fastest deck, yes?  And by fastest decks you mean decks that can deal 100+ damage in the least amount of turns on the most consistant basis. 

So why use AI3 instead of AI1?  It's not an AI3 Farming Challenge, it just fast decks.. you'd be better off testing against a blank opponent with only 100hp, but since you can't... seems to me AI1 makes more sense than AI3.

Its not 100% about what deck is the fastest.  I wanted to see how fast these decks were in normal game situations.  AI3 gives a good measure of how a deck works under adversity; you face shields, CC, purify, reverse time, earthquake, etc. and see how these decks deal with this gauntlet.

As far as pure speed, the adrenaline life rush should be faster theoretically, but shields, infection and fire shield all hit this deck quite hard where a deck like shriekers has higher attack 4 hp critters that are less succeptable to these ill effects.

The losses column gives a good idea of how efective the deck is overall.  Some decks are blazing fast when they work, but can't deal with issues and also has a high amount of losses.  Other decks are slower and more sturdy.

[plastiqe]

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4vh 4vh 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 52q 5f3 5f3 5f6 5f9 5f9 5f9 5f9 5f9 5f9 5fa 5fa 5fa 5fa 5fa 5fa 5fb 5l9 5l9 5l9 5l9 5l9No Land Stompy: 6.916 ttw losses: 2 - posted by plastiqe
2 Lycanthrope, 6 Nova, 1 Arsenic, 2 Fire Spirit, 1 Deflagration,
6 Immolation, 6 Lava Golem, 1 Rage Potion, 5 Photon, Fire Mark

Mark of Air + Life + Light. 36 cards
9 6 7
Mark of Death + Darkness. 37 cards
8 7 6 7 7 6 7
Mark of Water + Aether. 37 cards
5 8 6 7 6
Mark of Light + Life + Air. 38 cards
6 6 5 7
Mark of Air + Light. 38 cards
8
Mark of Fire + Death + Darkness. 38 cards
8 6 8 8 7
Mark of Water + Death. 40 cards
6 10 9
Mark of Entropy + Darkness. 40 cards
6 L
Mark of Gravity + Light. 40 cards
7 8 6 6
Mark of Time. 40 cards
7
Mark of Time + Aether. 44 cards
9 7 7 5
Mark of Earth + Time. 44 cards
6 8 8 6
Mark of Death + Fire. 45 cards
6 L 8 5
Mark of Life + Rainbow. 58 card
6 6 9New unupped champ?  50 games doesn't seem like a lot but I have a hard time believe mono death is the fastest unupgraded deck.  It is possible to win in 4 turns but the stars never aligned during the testing.  Shame that Lava Golem costs 5 now, this decktype used to be so much faster.

[bigbadbanana]

I think if you added graboids/ arsenics/ forest spirits/ any other cheap fast card, and took out the fire spirits, no land stompy would be faster.

[plastiqe]

I think if you added graboids/ arsenics/ forest spirits/ any other cheap fast card, and took out the fire spirits, no land stompy would be faster.

You could play 50 games against AI3 with those cards & mark of earth, then we'd know for sure.  : )

[Retribution]

I was wondering if someone could take the time to test out some of the newbie decks HERE. (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,1190.0.html)

I don't have the time at the moment.

[ratchetspyro94]

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4vh 4vh 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 52q 5f3 5f3 5f6 5f9 5f9 5f9 5f9 5f9 5f9 5fa 5fa 5fa 5fa 5fa 5fa 5fb 5l9 5l9 5l9 5l9 5l9No Land Stompy: 6.916 ttw losses: 2 - posted by plastiqe
2 Lycanthrope, 6 Nova, 1 Arsenic, 2 Fire Spirit, 1 Deflagration,
6 Immolation, 6 Lava Golem, 1 Rage Potion, 5 Photon, Fire Mark

Mark of Air + Life + Light. 36 cards
9 6 7
Mark of Death + Darkness. 37 cards
8 7 6 7 7 6 7
Mark of Water + Aether. 37 cards
5 8 6 7 6
Mark of Light + Life + Air. 38 cards
6 6 5 7
Mark of Air + Light. 38 cards
8
Mark of Fire + Death + Darkness. 38 cards
8 6 8 8 7
Mark of Water + Death. 40 cards
6 10 9
Mark of Entropy + Darkness. 40 cards
6 L
Mark of Gravity + Light. 40 cards
7 8 6 6
Mark of Time. 40 cards
7
Mark of Time + Aether. 44 cards
9 7 7 5
Mark of Earth + Time. 44 cards
6 8 8 6
Mark of Death + Fire. 45 cards
6 L 8 5
Mark of Life + Rainbow. 58 card
6 6 9New unupped champ?  50 games doesn't seem like a lot but I have a hard time believe mono death is the fastest unupgraded deck.  It is possible to win in 4 turns but the stars never aligned during the testing.  Shame that Lava Golem costs 5 now, this decktype used to be so much faster.

Mono Death is the fastest unupgraded deck. Ive been using it but I upgraded mine as you can see for the 100 statistics ive posted. Its fast but most of the time i got 1-2 towers on 1st draw. Iv came close to losing with it many times in lvl 3. Ive had 1hp left and i did the exact damage to the oponent. I was pleased.

[jmdt]

I was wondering if someone could take the time to test out some of the newbie decks HERE. (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,1190.0.html)

I don't have the time at the moment.

I have 4/12 of those decks in the unupped section (or decks that are close): aether, death, life, and earth.  A couple of them hrmmm, xKelevra and I are working on coming up with a better more updated deck for.  We already found a better mono death deck.

I think air with UG and darkness with gargoyles may run better, but I will have to do some testing.  The gravity deck with colossal dragon will need some serious reworking.  For light, is a dragon rush, or a pegasus rush better?  Is 6 RT really the best way to go with time.

[Retribution]

I think this deck would be better for air, but I'm not sure, as I haven't done vigorous testing.
I need ways to improve it though, as gravity shield and jade shield are a real pain...

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