[OUTDATED] Turns to win study

[Retribution]

It would also be appreciative if you would write some statistics for unupgraded speed decks, which is what most people farming AI3 would use. Upgraded decks usually tackle T50.  Sue me if I'm wrong.

Yeah we've been taking about that.  What unupped decks would you like me to look at?

Try these decks:
12 emerald pillars
6 horned frogs
6 cockatrices
6 adrenaline

17 earth pillar
1 short sword
6 graboid
6 shrieker

8 fire pillar
4 immolation
5 crimson dragon
4 fire spirit
1 fahreinheit
2 photon
1 fire shield
2 fire bolt
1 rain of fire
2 defrag

[jmdt]

op updated with more data

[bigbadbanana]

Fastest deck:

http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,1060.msg11168#msg11168

[Anothebrother]

It would also be appreciative if you would write some statistics for unupgraded speed decks, which is what most people farming AI3 would use. Upgraded decks usually tackle T50.  Sue me if I'm wrong.

Yeah we've been taking about that.  What unupped decks would you like me to look at?

life rush
shrieker rush
mono dark
vreely's fire golem (meant for t50)
speed poison (poison, 2 arsenic, 6 freeze, 6 chrys, bone towers, water mark)
SG's speed rainbow (has novas and precogs)
Graboid speed rainbow (in rainbow section, i think post is by antagon, maybe azumi)

[guy_fawkes]

Fastest deck:

http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,1060.msg11168#msg11168

correct me if i am wrong, but i suppose this deck was tested before lava destroyer cost increased to 5 red quanta right..?

so this won't work in the current enviroment...

[Amilir]

If you're referring to the recent nerf, that only changed lava golem.  Lava destroyer was already five quanta.

[guy_fawkes]

yeah you are correct, i was referring to that nerf but i confused lava golem with destoyer

[xKelevra]

Well, after spending about half my day at work playing Elements for two days, here are the results for some decks that I use.

My own speed rainbow

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6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6u1 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 713 71b 745 77g 77g 7ae 7ah 7dm 7dm 7dq 7gm 7k1 7n7 7n7 7n7 7t9 80gTTW: 6.0997
Losses: 0


Vreely's 27-card Fire Rush T50 Killer (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,3874.0.html)
TTW: 5.8901
Losses: 2
Notes: Losses came from extremely bad draws. Also, the last 8 games started with amazing starting hands resulting in 4 turn kills.


My Mono Entropy

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4vk 4vk 6ts 6ts 6ts 6ts 6ts 6ts 6ts 6ts 6ts 6ts 6ts 6ts 6ts 6ts 6tu 6tu 6tv 6tv 6tv 6tv 6tv 6tv 6u7 6u7 6u7 6u7 6u7 6u7 6u8 6u8 6ugTTW: 6.9774
Losses: 2
Notes: May not be the fastest deck, but it can effectively shut down most rushes with antimatters/purple nymph (tested it in PvP a few times). Losses came from the speed poison AI3 because I didn't draw my dragons in time.


PuppyChow's Order in the Court! (The 2nd Deck) (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,1627.msg17296#msg17296)
TTW: 6.5781
Losses: 6
Notes: Extremely sensitive to bad draws. My losses were a combinations of bad draws and reverse time.


EDIT: Added links and images.

[jmdt]

OP updated with xKelevra's data.

[Selenbrant]

Speed is good, but its not all:

For example:
12 emerald pillars
6 horned frogs
6 cockatrices
6 adrenaline

-1 cockatrice
-2 pillar
+3 healing

Results in slightly reduced speed, but much higher EM chance.

[Bluesky]

Fully Upgraded Speed Poison Deck Result: (9 Bone Towers, 2 Flesh Recluses, 6 Physalias, 6 Deadly Poison, 1 arsenic, 6 Congeals)

Result : 7,45 ttw
Losses : 1

The biggest opponent of this deck is the stupid Aether/water with immortal Mind Flayer, and Water/death that have purify. And also, both have Ice shield which can harm Physalias. You may win both of those, but slowly.

[hrmmm]

i made another 50 games with the deck i posted.
it corrects my stats slightly.

ttw: 5.82 (50 games)
loses: 0

overall:

ttw: 5.78 (100 games)
loses: 1

edit: my stats in detail
3 ttw: 1   (incredible lucky here)
4 ttw: 19
5 ttw: 30
6 ttw: 21
7 ttw: 18
8 ttw: 6
9-11 ttw: 5