[OUTDATED] The Return of FGei (for v1.32x)

[ColorlessGreen]

First, many thanks for bringing this back. It is very much needed.

Second, if I am remembering correctly, trainer does not have some of the customized FG-specific AI that the actual game does, so be wary of tests from trainer. They can report a much higher win rate than would happen in the actual game. (Again, if I am remembering correctly.) I do not recall whether this applies to the false god button in trainer or if it only applies to the custom AI (i.e. choose an opponent) button. If it only applies to the latter, people without the money to make the decks could test using the former, but would not be able to round out additional games against specific FGs using the custom AI button.

Hopefully someone can confirm whether I'm remembering correctly about trainer.

edit: P.S. whoever tests fully unupped firecell first will earn my eternal gratitude. I really would like to know whether or not it's more unupped profit than AI4.

[rob77dp]

Electrum (no EM) data column is a bit ambiguous.  Does that mean dividing the game-displayed electrum-won amount in half to input what would be won had an EM not occurred or is it something else in meaning?

Also the TESTING menu has options which seem possibly different but lack enough detail to distinguish when/if to use each one.  Could you provide a bit more detail on when to use each choice?


Also, the "Duplicate" tab option is unavailable to use and "Copy to" will not allow it to copy to the locked file you have created.  Please advise. 

[Calindu]

File -> Make a copy

[rob77dp]

File -> Make a copy

^-- does not achieve what I perceived to be the goal of having the stats all in one file (with tabs being for separate decks).  ??

[Calindu]

File -> Make a copy

^-- does not achieve what I perceived to be the goal of having the stats all in one file (with tabs being for separate decks).  ??

Ofc, to have your stats in you have to send them to Pella, he will update the stats in one GDoc.
Also a question from me: I don't see how to "Update data", as in: I put them stats in, but nothing happens.

[Pella]

Okay, I didn't intend for this to be complicated, but apparently I overlooked a few details.

Electrum (no EM) data column is a bit ambiguous.  Does that mean dividing the game-displayed electrum-won amount in half to input what would be won had an EM not occurred or is it something else in meaning?

I borrowed this terminology from the STATMASTA.  "Electrum (no EM) means that you should enter the amount of electrum you win on normal wins only.  Do not enter the amount you win on EM wins, because the spreadsheet calculates this automatically.

Also the TESTING menu has options which seem possibly different but lack enough detail to distinguish when/if to use each one.  Could you provide a bit more detail on when to use each choice?

"Update Data" is to be used after you're done entering data.  This takes whatever you've entered in yellow and adds it to the pre-existing numbers to the left.  Obviously, the first time you do this, it just moves everything.  The idea is to allow one person multiple testing sessions, or even multiple people to use the same spreadsheet.
"I'm done!" is to be done after "Update Data".  Maybe I should put that in quotes on the menu so it's more clear.  This menu item removes the "IN USE" indicator on the spreadsheet so other users know it's available.

Also, the "Duplicate" tab option is unavailable to use and "Copy to" will not allow it to copy to the locked file you have created.  Please advise. 

I thought I configured the settings so this wouldn't happen.  I'll have to look at it and report back.

File -> Make a copy

^-- does not achieve what I perceived to be the goal of having the stats all in one file (with tabs being for separate decks).  ??

rob is correct.

[Zso_Zso]

I have made a 100-game STATMASTA run for a Voodoo Bravery variant posted here (with v1.321):
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,41435.msg1040030.html#msg1040030

Looks like the deck is exactly the same variant as the one used by ElementalDearWatson, so these stats can be summed up!

EDIT: link fixed as CuCN pointed out my link was (incorrectly) pointing to his table, which is for a different deck variant.

[Pella]

Spoiler for quote with image:

Also, the "Duplicate" tab option is unavailable to use and "Copy to" will not allow it to copy to the locked file you have created.  Please advise. 

I thought I configured the settings so this wouldn't happen.  I'll have to look at it and report back.

This should be fixed now.

[rob77dp]

Okay, I didn't intend for this to be complicated, but apparently I overlooked a few details.

Electrum (no EM) data column is a bit ambiguous.  Does that mean dividing the game-displayed electrum-won amount in half to input what would be won had an EM not occurred or is it something else in meaning?

I borrowed this terminology from the STATMASTA.  "Electrum (no EM) means that you should enter the amount of electrum you win on normal wins only.  Do not enter the amount you win on EM wins, because the spreadsheet calculates this automatically.

-snip-

Um, what about someone using PDials - can the method being formulated behind the GDocs cell-scenes account for non-100HP EM's or 110HP non-EM's?    Sorry to cause a ruckus, but I'm just relaying hurdles as I encounter trying to copy over my 200+ PDials FG record...

[Pella]

Okay, I didn't intend for this to be complicated, but apparently I overlooked a few details.

Electrum (no EM) data column is a bit ambiguous.  Does that mean dividing the game-displayed electrum-won amount in half to input what would be won had an EM not occurred or is it something else in meaning?

I borrowed this terminology from the STATMASTA.  "Electrum (no EM) means that you should enter the amount of electrum you win on normal wins only.  Do not enter the amount you win on EM wins, because the spreadsheet calculates this automatically.

-snip-

Um, what about someone using PDials - can the method being formulated behind the GDocs cell-scenes account for non-100HP EM's or 110HP non-EM's?    Sorry to cause a ruckus, but I'm just relaying hurdles as I encounter trying to copy over my 200+ PDials FG record...

Non-EM wins with more than 100HP have never caused an issue with FGei calculation.

Originally, the spreadsheet did not take into account the extra electrum won for EMs with more than 100HP.  I have modified the spreadsheet to fix this.
Please record electrum won from non-EMs and EMs separately.  This will allow the spreadsheet to calculate the FGei correctly.

Edited with new information after editing spreadsheet.  Things should be easier now.

[CuCN]

I have made a 100-game STATMASTA run for a Voodoo Bravery variant posted here (with v1.321):
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,41435.msg1045700.html#msg1045700

Looks like the deck is exactly the same variant as the one used by ElementalDearWatson, so these stats can be summed up!

You linked the stats that I took for a different version, yours are here.
The version I tested in that link was this one:

Hover over cards for details, click for permalink

Deck import code : [Select]

6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6ve 6ve 6ve 6ve 6ve 74d 74d 77l 77l 77l 77l 77l 77l 7ee 7ee 7ee 7ee 7ee 7ee 7tg 7tg 80b 80b 80b 80b 8pu

I will start taking stats for this now.

[Pella]

I edited the OP to add a list of the requested data points.

I edited the second post in the thread (previously "Reserved") with a list of the decks that need to be tested, based on the requests that people posted in this thread.  I will keep this list updated as often as I can.

As I stated before, the most accurate results require a minimum of 10 duels against each FG.  When one or more decks meet this criterion, I will post them at the top of the second post for easy reference.