[OUTDATED] FG Efficiency Study - Applying statistics to all of the myths

[Sevs]

deck	Instosis
players	Jenkar

version	1.293		win-rate	61,4%
$ track ?	enabled		win-rate (n)	61,36%
games	285		Score/h	900
win-loss-(EM)	175-110-(7)		Score/h (n)	895
time (h:m:s)	11:27:35		FGei[c]* (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,14626.0.html)	8857
min/game	02:25		FGei[cn]* (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,14626.0.html)	8865

      Statmasta™realtec                                                               

score/h	FGei(c)	Statmasta™realtec	wins	losses	skips	EM/Wins
1000    294    -295    752    1536    928    -386    1940    320    1507    1605    1577    960    344       -717    1105    -800    1522    1575    128    1312    447    73    1671    1600    -359    575    1200    1296	12610    4466    3483    9913    11031    12967    1656    11088    7573    11554    13590    13465    8639    6990       688    10412    -800    11451    10075    4276    10719    6957    6159    14606    12726    1111    5651    9279    11548	Akebono Chaos Lord Dark Matter Decay Destiny Divine Glory Dream Catcher Elidnis Eternal Phoenix Ferox Fire Queen Gemini Graviton Hecate Hermes Incarnate Jezebel Lionheart Miracle Morte Neptune Obliterator Octane Osiris Paradox Rainbow Scorpio Seism Serket	5    4    2    6    10     8    3    10    2    10    10    7    8    4    1    7        10    11    3    6    3    1    8    12    1    7    9    7	3     6     7     10           5     15         3     1             3     5     10     3     8         2     6     1     4     2             6     7     1     2		4            1            1                                                                  1

Realteched~
Sorry for being such a newb at following stuff

Yay! and SPlat is also using 4000 as a heads up

[Calindu]

deck	Instosis
players	Jenkar

version	1.293		win-rate	61,4%
$ track ?	enabled		win-rate (n)	61,36%
games	285		Score/h	900
win-loss-(EM)	175-110-(7)		Score/h (n)	895
time (h:m:s)	11:27:35		FGei[c]* (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,14626.0.html)	8857
min/game	02:25		FGei[cn]* (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,14626.0.html)	8865

      Statmasta™realtec                                                               

score/h	FGei(c)	Statmasta™realtec	wins	losses	skips	EM/Wins
1000    294    -295    752    1536    928    -386    1940    320    1507    1605    1577    960    344       -717    1105    -800    1522    1575    128    1312    447    73    1671    1600    -359    575    1200    1296	12610    4466    3483    9913    11031    12967    1656    11088    7573    11554    13590    13465    8639    6990       688    10412    -800    11451    10075    4276    10719    6957    6159    14606    12726    1111    5651    9279    11548	Akebono Chaos Lord Dark Matter Decay Destiny Divine Glory Dream Catcher Elidnis Eternal Phoenix Ferox Fire Queen Gemini Graviton Hecate Hermes Incarnate Jezebel Lionheart Miracle Morte Neptune Obliterator Octane Osiris Paradox Rainbow Scorpio Seism Serket	5    4    2    6    10     8    3    10    2    10    10    7    8    4    1    7        10    11    3    6    3    1    8    12    1    7    9    7	3     6     7     10           5     15         3     1             3     5     10     3     8         2     6     1     4     2             6     7     1     2		4            1            1                                                                  1

Realteched~
Sorry for being such a newb at following stuff

Yay! and SPlat is also using 4000 as a heads up

Good job Sevs.
I think SPlat with the skip procedure and Realtec can get a 7000+ FGei

[Jenkar]

deck	Splat
players	Jenkar

version	1.293		win-rate	52,57%
$ track ?	enabled		win-rate (n)	54,91%
games	175		Score/h	988
win-loss-(EM)	92-83-(0)		Score/h (n)	1059
time (h:m:s)	08:13:53		FGei[c]* (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,14626.0.html)	6910
min/game	02:49		FGei[cn]* (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,14626.0.html)	7289

      Statmasta™realtec                                                               

score/h	FGei(c)	Statmasta™realtec	wins	losses	skips	EM/Wins
3203    2934    1212    980    2113    143    359    -111    805    -1310    -926    1773    1526    1305       2267    -781    2284    1872    -528    1202    771    1472    175    2492    672    1088    895    79    849	17156    12969    6582    11637    11464    3338    4807    1832    8116    -1310    -926    10103    7445    8135       9166    -781    14285    11158    -528    5011    6285    11321    6444    11569    7378    4943    3606    4107    8544	Akebono Chaos Lord Dark Matter Decay Destiny Divine Glory Dream Catcher Elidnis Eternal Phoenix Ferox Fire Queen Gemini Graviton Hecate Hermes Incarnate Jezebel Lionheart Miracle Morte Neptune Obliterator Octane Osiris Paradox Rainbow Scorpio Seism Serket	4    5    4    4    4     2    4    1    4            2    2    6    5        6    6        2    8    5    2    3    2    6    1    2    2	1         3     2           7     6     3     4     7     5     1     1     5     1     5             7     3     5     1     4         1     3     2     5     1

http://www.mediafire.com/?rj9sl8vc3fjb7t0

With skips :

deck	Splat
players	Jenkar

version	1.293		win-rate	50,86%
$ track ?	enabled		win-rate (n)	53,28%
games	175		Score/h	1158
win-loss-(EM)	89-86-(0)		Score/h (n)	1239
time (h:m:s)	06:38:49		FGei[c]* (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,14626.0.html)	8203
min/game	02:17		FGei[cn]* (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,14626.0.html)	8653

      Statmasta™realtec                                                               

score/h	FGei(c)	Statmasta™realtec	wins	losses	skips	EM/Wins
3203    2934    1212    980    2113    -108000    359    -108000    805    -108000    -108000    1773    1526    1305       2267    -108000    2284    1872    -108000    1202    771    1472    175    2492    672    1088    895    79    849	17156    12969    6582    11637    11464    -108000    4807    -108000    8116    -108000    -108000    10103    7445    8135       9166    -108000    14285    11158    -108000    5011    6285    11321    6444    11569    7378    4943    3606    4107    8544	Akebono Chaos Lord Dark Matter Decay Destiny Divine Glory Dream Catcher Elidnis Eternal Phoenix Ferox Fire Queen Gemini Graviton Hecate Hermes Incarnate Jezebel Lionheart Miracle Morte Neptune Obliterator Octane Osiris Paradox Rainbow Scorpio Seism Serket	4    5    4    4    4         4        4            2    2    6    5        6    6        2    8    5    2    3    2    6    1    2    2	1         3     2               6         4             1     1     5     1                     3     5     1     4         1     3     2     5     1	9        4        7    5                    5            7

[pulli23]

Not trying to dispute you or anything: but how did you get a 0% rate vs jezebel with mitosis? - And how did you get 4 EMs vs dark matter? - Quick starts?

Seems my personal experience with instosis is exactly the opposite (I have 10+ losses vs seism, no wons, 75% wins vs jezebel). - Well I still need to earn 3 upgrades for instosis (3 sundials), but I think I ought to do some tests after that?

[Sevs]

Not trying to dispute you or anything: but how did you get a 0% rate vs jezebel with mitosis? - And how did you get 4 EMs vs dark matter? - Quick starts?

Seems my personal experience with instosis is exactly the opposite (I have 10+ losses vs seism, no wons, 75% wins vs jezebel). - Well I still need to earn 3 upgrades for instosis (3 sundials), but I think I ought to do some tests after that?

the 4 EM's are decay if you look carefully, but i do find it funny you beat Dark matter more times than jezebel. This isnt really the thread to be talking strategy so ill keep it short only play 1 hourglass and only draw if you can make it up later in the game. sundials upped do help against seism.

[Jenkar]

Not trying to dispute you or anything: but how did you get a 0% rate vs jezebel with mitosis? - And how did you get 4 EMs vs dark matter? - Quick starts?

Seems my personal experience with instosis is exactly the opposite (I have 10+ losses vs seism, no wons, 75% wins vs jezebel). - Well I still need to earn 3 upgrades for instosis (3 sundials), but I think I ought to do some tests after that?

Jezebel is a horror : when she did not draw all her steals, she got air and gravity nymphs.
i suppose you mean decay, decay's quite doable with the right start.

[Jangoo]

Keep in mind, that 4000 assumes a card-spin-rate of 35% for each FG whereas realtec has the realistic spin-rates broken down for each god individually ... With a deck like this, which plays well against cashcows such as DG (68%), Akebono (59%), even EternalPh (56%), this makes an especially huge difference!

Yeah...I realized this the other day when following your FGei explanation thread.  Felt pretty stupid after I figured out where I was screwing up my calculations.

Ooops ... just noticed that the FGei-thread was still stuck in the age of 4000 and, in parts, even before that. Sorry for that.

[antiaverage]

Keep in mind, that 4000 assumes a card-spin-rate of 35% for each FG whereas realtec has the realistic spin-rates broken down for each god individually ... With a deck like this, which plays well against cashcows such as DG (68%), Akebono (59%), even EternalPh (56%), this makes an especially huge difference!

Yeah...I realized this the other day when following your FGei explanation thread.  Felt pretty stupid after I figured out where I was screwing up my calculations.

Ooops ... just noticed that the FGei-thread was still stuck in the age of 4000 and, in parts, even before that. Sorry for that.

Didn't realize the latest statmasta was using individual spin-rates. Any chance you could update the FGei thread to discuss that and report the breakdown?

[gumbeh]

For future reference:

To finally put an old bone of contention to rest - FGs use the same AI as everything else, right? I.E., custom AI6 is a valid method of testing FG counters?

Correct. Sometimes the Trainer is a version or two behind, though, so if there were AI changed in the new version, custom AI6 might not be valid.

[Jangoo]

Keep in mind, that 4000 assumes a card-spin-rate of 35% for each FG whereas realtec has the realistic spin-rates broken down for each god individually ... With a deck like this, which plays well against cashcows such as DG (68%), Akebono (59%), even EternalPh (56%), this makes an especially huge difference!

Yeah...I realized this the other day when following your FGei explanation thread.  Felt pretty stupid after I figured out where I was screwing up my calculations.

Ooops ... just noticed that the FGei-thread was still stuck in the age of 4000 and, in parts, even before that. Sorry for that.

Didn't realize the latest statmasta was using individual spin-rates. Any chance you could update the FGei thread to discuss that and report the breakdown?

"Discuss that"? You mean the actual numbers behind it?

You can find these HERE in the Statmasta-thread (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,21654.msg423726.html#msg423726) along with three links to the studies/posts that contributed to finding the godbygod card-spin-rates. 

[antiaverage]

"Discuss that"? You mean the actual numbers behind it?

You can find these HERE in the Statmasta-thread (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,21654.msg423726.html#msg423726) along with three links to the studies/posts that contributed to finding the godbygod card-spin-rates. 

That's exactly what I was looking for, thank you.

I've been working on this Google Doc version:
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,37146.0.html

[Assassine]

Could you tell me which deck is doing the best right now in electrum / hour?
Cant find it in between all those tables