[OUTDATED] FG Efficiency Study - Applying statistics to all of the myths

[kirchj33]

deck	Cover and Cry
players	kirchj33

version	1.27		win-rate	22.67%
$ track ?	enabled		win-rate (n)	25.09%
games	150		Score/h	4
win-loss-(EM)	34-116-(17)		Score/h (n)	47
time (h:m:s)	10:50:01		FGei[c]* (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,14626.0.html)	1231
min/game	04:20		FGei[cn]* (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,14626.0.html)	1335

      Statmasta™4000                                                                *assumed card-spin/win: 35%      
      
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score/h	FGei(c)	Statmasta™4000	wins	losses	skips	EM/Wins
-99    -731    -1360    0    238    -821    -1437    48    -1507    272    -348    275    -1234    0       -1262    888    -638    -582    717    168    499    -842    -1780    -306    578    -218    -633    -1483    459	1236    -731    -1360    1884    1694    -821    -1437    694    -1507    1527    -348    2425    -1234    1415       -1262    3661    -638    -582    3236    1648    2692    -842    -1780    -306    2702    520    -633    -1483    3196	Akebono Chaos Lord Dark Matter Decay Destiny Divine Glory Dream Catcher Elidnis Eternal Phoenix Ferox Fire Queen Gemini Graviton Hecate Hermes Incarnate Jezebel Lionheart Miracle Morte Neptune Obliterator Octane Osiris Paradox Rainbow Scorpio Seism Serket	1            1    2             1        4        2        1        2            5    2    5                5    1            2	5     6     7     4     1      5     6     3     3     1     5     2     6     4     7     1     6     3         4     2     4     3     4         8     9     4     1	2	1                  1                        1                                    1            2                  4      1      2                        3      1

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http://www.mediafire.com/?tnhkzpjdu1abptc (http://www.mediafire.com/?tnhkzpjdu1abptc)

One of the worst experiences of my life.  However, my moments of glory were beating Decay and Rainbow.

[gumbeh]

How does such an unprofitable deck find its way into the study in the first place? Extremely hyped? Intriguing enough to be investigated further?

[Onizuka]

Being in the FG deck archive/talked about I assume.

[Higurashi]

No one actually knows it's unprofitable until testing has been done in the current environment, since many decks that are in the archive or are generally known as viable options for FG farming are old and might be outdated. Some of us older users may know this for ourselves, but nothing beats cold hard fact with stats.

[Buzz4rd]

thanks for this tread:)

[Veen]

Thanks @ Gumbeh for taking 100 game stats I hope your electrum was worth it Maybe you could also post the stats in the deck thread. Would be awesome if someone else could do 100 as well to get things normalized.

[Found2]

deck	Eternal Chaos
players	Found2

version	1.284		win-rate	44,08%
$ track ?	enabled		win-rate (n)	n.a.
games	152		Score/h	302
win-loss-(EM)	67-85-(5)		Score/h (n)	n.a.
time (h:m:s)	10:30:45		FGei[c]* (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,14626.0.html)	2713
min/game	04:09		FGei[cn]* (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,14626.0.html)	n.a.

      Statmasta™4000                                                                *assumed card-spin/win: 35%      
      
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score/h	FGei(c)	Statmasta™4000	wins	losses	skips	EM/Wins
-12    -7    -29    97    1044    -716    -140    158    -221    523    814    306    193    1122       -33    136    548    561    285    438    1043    102    557    139    583    -543    -847    197    90	2302    1292    1760    2247    5744    -716    1361    1288    1096    3376    4708    2577    2269    6145       1335    2030    4226    4104    2210    3198    5591    1519    3747    1979    3597    -543    -847    2377    2922	Akebono Chaos Lord Dark Matter Decay Destiny Divine Glory Dream Catcher Elidnis Eternal Phoenix Ferox Fire Queen Gemini Graviton Hecate Hermes Incarnate Jezebel Lionheart Miracle Morte Neptune Obliterator Octane Osiris Paradox Rainbow Scorpio Seism Serket	1    1    1    2    10     0    1    2    1    2    4    3    2    2    1    2    2    4    4    5    5    1    3    2    3    0    0    2    1	3     3     3     4     0      7     4     3     5     1     3     3     3     0     3     5     1     2     5     4     0     2     2     4     1     5     4     3     2	0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0	0      0      0      0      0      0      0      1      0      0      2      0      0      0      0      1      0      0      1      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0

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https://rapidshare.com/files/551669300/Stats_Found2_Eternalchaos.xls


Here are my stats to Eternal Chaos as far as I have them. I post the now because tomorrow I go on vacation and will not be able to do any further statistics for two weeks (Yeah! )... I started recording from the first game without practising the deck but I think I did quite ok (even thought this deck is not my style - waiting for enemy to die while hoping for enough healing/PC).

There is one thing I have to admit: I had incredible luck with the spins. I thing you can't see it from the data but I had a card win percentage of over 40%. So don't overestimate the FGei value...

[Onizuka]

Yay I'm super lucky.

http://www.mediafire.com/?s9t9ysc9489aa28

deck	Eternal Chaos
players	Found2

version	1.284		win-rate	44.81%
$ track ?	enabled		win-rate (n)	43.78%
games	154		Score/h	317
win-loss-(EM)	69-85-(6)		Score/h (n)	301
time (h:m:s)	10:40:29		FGei[c]* (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,14626.0.html)	2764
min/game	04:10		FGei[cn]* (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,14626.0.html)	2704

      Statmasta™4000                                                                *assumed card-spin/win: 35%      
      

"

score/h	FGei(c)	Statmasta™4000	wins	losses	skips	EM/Wins
-12    -7    -29    97    1044    -716    -140    158    -221    523    814    306    193    1082       -33    357    548    561    285    438    1043    102    557    139    583    -543    -847    197    90	2302    1292    1760    2247    5744    -716    1361    1288    1096    3376    4708    2577    2269    5963       1335    2763    4226    4104    2210    3198    5591    1519    3747    1979    3597    -543    -847    2377    2922	Akebono Chaos Lord Dark Matter Decay Destiny Divine Glory Dream Catcher Elidnis Eternal Phoenix Ferox Fire Queen Gemini Graviton Hecate Hermes Incarnate Jezebel Lionheart Miracle Morte Neptune Obliterator Octane Osiris Paradox Rainbow Scorpio Seism Serket	1    1    1    2    10     0    1    2    1    2    4    3    2    3    1    3    2    4    4    5    5    1    3    2    3    0    0    2    1	3     3     3     4     0      7     4     3     5     1     3     3     3     0     3     5     1     2     5     4     0     2     2     4     1     5     4     3     2	0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0	0      0      0      0      0      0      0      1      0      0      2      0      0      0      0      2      0      0      1      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0      0

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An EM on Incarnate then a win on Hectate. Wooo

[kirchj33]

Yay I'm super lucky.

lol nice!  Updated on OP.

[Jenkar]

http://www.mediafire.com/?mwlwaw3nec8jjeu

^Upped LA stats, sorry for delay. Now testing : Mono Aether.

[gumbeh]

http://www.mediafire.com/?mwlwaw3nec8jjeu

^Upped LA stats, sorry for delay. Now testing : Mono Aether.

You and the deck author have very different experiences with Graviton and Dark Matter. Any guess as to why? Did you have bad luck? Do you use the strategy he outlines, but it didn't work as well as advertised? Did you try a different strategy of your own?
@Veen, man! I posted in your thread as requested. What do you think about decking out Jezebel instead of saving up for the Viotech Classic Combo? Very curious as to your thoughts or experiences with that.

[Jenkar]

http://www.mediafire.com/?mwlwaw3nec8jjeu

^Upped LA stats, sorry for delay. Now testing : Mono Aether.

You and the deck author have very different experiences with Graviton and Dark Matter. Any guess as to why? Did you have bad luck? Do you use the strategy he outlines, but it didn't work as well as advertised? Did you try a different strategy of your own?

Both those gods are, in my experience, viable if you're lucky, and i wasn't. Confirmation/infirmation will come with more data.