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Re: FG Efficiency Study - Applying statistics to all of the myths https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25609.msg338942#msg338942
« Reply #48 on: May 23, 2011, 04:00:34 am »
Done with 200 games. I'll upload tmr. Done
Just wondering. Which one should I do next?


  deck     CCYB Slim     
  players     Genuinous   
  version    1.27 
  win-rate     47.5%   
  $ track ?    enabled 
  win-rate (n)     49.58%   
  games    200 
  Score/h     457   
  win-loss-(EM)     95-105-(12)   
  Score/h (n)    494   
  time (h:m:s)     11:15:15   
  FGei[c]* (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,14626.0.html  3663   
  min/game     03:23   
  FGei[cn]* (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,14626.0.html  3792   
      Statmasta™4000                                                                *assumed card-spin/win: 35%      

  score/h  FGei(c)   Statmasta™4000    wins losses skips EM/Wins
   -334
   409
   -167
   1106
   801
   -947
   25
   354
   28
   770
   52
   368
   273
   1284   
   -1090
   1101
   -665
   486
   1149
   858
   1281
   146
   949
   607
   817
   -776
   -282
   762
   785
   1487
   3678
   1367
   5393
   4569
   -947
   2004
   3763
   2651
   5255
   1813
   3511
   2975
   7007   
   -1090
   5654
   -665
   3189
   6355
   4874
   6692
   3091
   5480
   3689
   4867
   -776
   1515
   4361
   6407
Akebono
Chaos Lord
Dark Matter
Decay
Destiny
Divine Glory
Dream Catcher
Elidnis
Eternal Phoenix
Ferox
Fire Queen
Gemini
Graviton
Hecate
Hermes
Incarnate
Jezebel
Lionheart
Miracle
Morte
Neptune
Obliterator
Octane
Osiris
Paradox
Rainbow
Scorpio
Seism
Serket
   1
   2
   1
   5
   6 
   0
   3
   2
   2
   4
   2
   3
   2
   6
   0
   4
   0
   5
   4
   2
   7
   3
   5
   5
   8
   0
   2
   7
   4
    5
    2
    4
    0
    2 
    7
    6
    3
    5
    3
    5
    3
    3
    1
    7
    0
    4
    3
    0
    1
    0
    4
    1
    2
    2
    5
    9
    3
    4
   
   
   
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   2
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   2
   
   3
   
   
   
   
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     3
     1
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
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     1
     
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Excel File (https://rapidshare.com/files/3127504419/Statmasta4000.xls)

Note: Reason for skips
Lockdown: Dream Catcher, Rainbow, Decay, Jezebel
PAd Fire Buckler: Hermes
PAd Pulvy + overrun: Obliterator

Note: Akebono is easier, but in none of the 5 losses could I play a shield...

Note: I EMd Rainbow and beat Hermes twice on a different computer and couldn't record the data.

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Re: FG Efficiency Study - Applying statistics to all of the myths https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25609.msg339166#msg339166
« Reply #49 on: May 23, 2011, 05:40:58 pm »
  deck     Fire Lance Sudden Killer   
  players     kirchj33   
  version    1.27 
  win-rate     17.5%   
  $ track ?    enabled 
  win-rate (n)     17.02%   
  games    160 
  Score/h     -263   
  win-loss-(EM)     28-132-(0)   
  Score/h (n)    -274   
  time (h:m:s)     07:25:52   
  FGei[c]* (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,14626.0.html  1154   
  min/game     02:47   
  FGei[cn]* (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,14626.0.html  1106   
      Statmasta™4000                                                                *assumed card-spin/win: 35%      
      

"
  score/h  FGei(c)   Statmasta™4000    wins losses skips EM/Wins
   -1912
   -638
   -2227
   -830
   83
   -970
   -1703
   -480
   -938
   49
   42
   147
   -1313
   -709   
   -1089
   624
   -673
   536
   192
   -2368
   492
   -1978
   -1265
   -445
   125
   -679
   -1666
   -894
   -9
   -1912
   -638
   -2227
   -830
   2159
   -970
   -1703
   -480
   -938
   2078
   1639
   2022
   -1313
   -709   
   -1089
   4125
   -673
   3301
   3024
   -2368
   4290
   -1978
   -1265
   -445
   2258
   -679
   -1666
   -894
   2217
Akebono
Chaos Lord
Dark Matter
Decay
Destiny
Divine Glory
Dream Catcher
Elidnis
Eternal Phoenix
Ferox
Fire Queen
Gemini
Graviton
Hecate
Hermes
Incarnate
Jezebel
Lionheart
Miracle
Morte
Neptune
Obliterator
Octane
Osiris
Paradox
Rainbow
Scorpio
Seism
Serket
   
   
   
   
   1 
   
   
   
   
   2
   1
   2
   
   
   
   7
   
   5
   2
   
   3
   
   
   
   3
   
   
   
   2
    4
    10
    4
    6
    2 
    3
    5
    6
    6
    4
    2
    3
    12
    3
    7
    1
    5
   
    3
    5
    2
    5
    5
    5
    5
    4
    6
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"      
      
Excel File: Fire Lance Sudden Killer (https://rapidshare.com/files/462899258/Statmasta4000_-_Fire_Lance_Sudden_Killer.xls)

kirchj33

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Re: FG Efficiency Study - Applying statistics to all of the myths https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25609.msg339169#msg339169
« Reply #50 on: May 23, 2011, 05:44:08 pm »
Done with 200 games. I'll upload tmr.
Just wondering. Which one should I do next?
I think we've got testers on every deck now except Scaredgirl's partially unupped deck, liquid antimatter, or eternal chaos.  Whichever you would like would be great though.  Ideally, we'd like 1k games on each deck completed.

Genuinous

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Re: FG Efficiency Study - Applying statistics to all of the myths https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25609.msg339172#msg339172
« Reply #51 on: May 23, 2011, 05:58:05 pm »
Done with 200 games. I'll upload tmr.
Just wondering. Which one should I do next?
I think we've got testers on every deck now except Scaredgirl's partially unupped deck, liquid antimatter, or eternal chaos.  Whichever you would like would be great though.  Ideally, we'd like 1k games on each deck completed.
I'm lacking upgrades for eternal chaos, so I'll do SG's partially upped deck.
Just an idea: personally I'd rather do 200 games with 5 different decks, than 1000 with 1. I don't know about others :)

kirchj33

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Re: FG Efficiency Study - Applying statistics to all of the myths https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25609.msg339321#msg339321
« Reply #52 on: May 23, 2011, 11:15:53 pm »
Just an idea: personally I'd rather do 200 games with 5 different decks, than 1000 with 1. I don't know about others :)
Yep.  That's one of the main ideas of having several testers.  Grinding a couple hundred games is difficult enough for one person.  If we can all pitch in, we should be able to get 1000+ games on each deck and draw some great comparisons.

twixy10

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Re: FG Efficiency Study - Applying statistics to all of the myths https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25609.msg342602#msg342602
« Reply #53 on: May 29, 2011, 10:45:43 am »
What is the policy on pet's?

I would guess don't count the games with pets as help.

Genuinous

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Re: FG Efficiency Study - Applying statistics to all of the myths https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25609.msg342619#msg342619
« Reply #54 on: May 29, 2011, 01:18:06 pm »
What is the policy on pet's?

I would guess don't count the games with pets as help.
I didn't count pets. Sometimes they make a difference. Extra attack or just draw out CC.

kirchj33

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Re: FG Efficiency Study - Applying statistics to all of the myths https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25609.msg342629#msg342629
« Reply #55 on: May 29, 2011, 01:40:23 pm »
What is the policy on pet's?

I would guess don't count the games with pets as help.
Yeah.  Pets are a no-go, so just think of fun, creative uses for them while you are waiting for them to go away.

zse

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Re: FG Efficiency Study - Applying statistics to all of the myths https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25609.msg343391#msg343391
« Reply #56 on: May 30, 2011, 07:26:38 pm »
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200 games:
90 wins, 104 losses, 6 skips (Decay is totally impossible), 7 EMs
Time (win, h:min) 5:53
Time (loss, h:min) 5:43
49 cards won

win rate 90/200 = 45%
normalized win rate  = 48,3%

Average turn to win: 10,4
Average turn to lose: 8,9
Average time on games won: 235
Average time on games lost: 198 (non-skipped)
Average time on games skipped: 21
min:sec /game: 3:29 (slow laptop)
   FG      w      l      w%   
   akebono      3      3      50,00%   
   chaos l      3      7      30,00%   
   dark m      0      11      0,00%   
   decay      0      6      0,00%   
   destiny      1      6      14,29%   
   div glo      3      7      30,00%   
   dream c      2      2      50,00%   
   elidnis      6      1      85,71%   
   eternal      2      4      33,33%   
   ferox      5      1      83,33%   
   fire q      1      5      16,67%   
   gemini      3      6      33,33%   
   gravit      3      4      42,86%   
   hecate      2      3      40,00%   
   hermes      3      3      50,00%   
   incarn      6      0      100,00%   
   jezebel      4      4      50,00%   
   lionh      2      1      66,67%   
   miracle      3      2      60,00%   
   morte      6      2      75,00%   
   neptune      5      0      100,00%   
   oblit      8      5      61,54%   
   octane      1      7      12,50%   
   osiris      1      8      11,11%   
   paradox      6      2      75,00%   
   rainbow      3      5      37,50%   
   scorpio      4      3      57,14%   
   seism      1      2      33,33%   
   serket      3      0      100,00%   

kirchj33

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Re: FG Efficiency Study - Applying statistics to all of the myths https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25609.msg343546#msg343546
« Reply #57 on: May 30, 2011, 11:23:49 pm »
Voodoo Panic (modded)
200 games:
90 wins, 104 losses, 6 skips (Decay is totally impossible), 7 EMs
Time (win, h:min) 5:53
Time (loss, h:min) 5:43
49 cards won

win rate 90/200 = 45%
normalized win rate  = 48,3%

Average turn to win: 10,4
Average turn to lose: 8,9
Average time on games won: 235
Average time on games lost: 198 (non-skipped)
Average time on games skipped: 21
min:sec /game: 3:29 (slow laptop)
   FG      w      l      w%   
   akebono      3      3      50,00%   
   chaos l      3      7      30,00%   
   dark m      0      11      0,00%   
   decay      0      6      0,00%   
   destiny      1      6      14,29%   
   div glo      3      7      30,00%   
   dream c      2      2      50,00%   
   elidnis      6      1      85,71%   
   eternal      2      4      33,33%   
   ferox      5      1      83,33%   
   fire q      1      5      16,67%   
   gemini      3      6      33,33%   
   gravit      3      4      42,86%   
   hecate      2      3      40,00%   
   hermes      3      3      50,00%   
   incarn      6      0      100,00%   
   jezebel      4      4      50,00%   
   lionh      2      1      66,67%   
   miracle      3      2      60,00%   
   morte      6      2      75,00%   
   neptune      5      0      100,00%   
   oblit      8      5      61,54%   
   octane      1      7      12,50%   
   osiris      1      8      11,11%   
   paradox      6      2      75,00%   
   rainbow      3      5      37,50%   
   scorpio      4      3      57,14%   
   seism      1      2      33,33%   
   serket      3      0      100,00%   
No STATMASTA zse?

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Re: FG Efficiency Study - Applying statistics to all of the myths https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25609.msg343970#msg343970
« Reply #58 on: May 31, 2011, 06:28:32 pm »

No STATMASTA zse?
Still on it ... sorry, been busy with loads of RL-stuff those past days.

I will send a link to an already working (but not yet pretty) OO-version to zse and YoundSot tomorrow.

If you would like to participate in the study but don't have MS-Excel, send me a pm to get the link.

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Re: FG Efficiency Study - Applying statistics to all of the myths https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25609.msg344318#msg344318
« Reply #59 on: June 01, 2011, 07:49:06 am »
Can anyone test: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,23368.0.html
or should I just do it and post results?
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