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Re: FG Efficiency Study - Applying statistics to all of the myths https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25609.msg389701#msg389701
« Reply #264 on: September 06, 2011, 07:44:30 am »
Me wants the data with skips :P

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Re: FG Efficiency Study - Applying statistics to all of the myths https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25609.msg389975#msg389975
« Reply #265 on: September 06, 2011, 09:16:35 pm »
Data taken and reformatted from YCH:


  deck     (1.27) CC? Why Bother? - unupped   
  players     YawnChainHow   
  version    1.27 
  win-rate     15.57%   
  $ track ?    enabled 
  win-rate (n)     14.95%   
  games    122 
  Score/h     -258   
  win-loss-(EM)     19-103-(10)   
  Score/h (n)    -280   
  time (h:m:s)     04:30:32   
  FGei[c]* (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,14626.0.html  1393   
  min/game     02:13   
  FGei[cn]* (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,14626.0.html  1306   
      Statmasta™4000                                                                *assumed card-spin/win: 35%      
      

"
  score/h  FGei(c)   Statmasta™4000    wins losses skips EM/Wins
   -2077
   -634
   448
   108
   987
   -1024
   -1550
   -1025
   -1620
   -1705
   -701
   -1080
   -1573
   421   
   -1630
   264
   416
   -452
   -202
   -112
   698
   -1364
   399
   -422
   -129
   -676
   230
   -1385
   -1770
   -2077
   1532
   3480
   1566
   5663
   -1024
   -1550
   -1025
   -1620
   -1705
   -701
   -1080
   -1573
   4586   
   -1630
   2583
   3232
   -452
   1650
   1251
   3844
   -1364
   3095
   1034
   1615
   -676
   3211
   -1385
   -1770
Akebono
Chaos Lord
Dark Matter
Decay
Destiny
Divine Glory
Dream Catcher
Elidnis
Eternal Phoenix
Ferox
Fire Queen
Gemini
Graviton
Hecate
Hermes
Incarnate
Jezebel
Lionheart
Miracle
Morte
Neptune
Obliterator
Octane
Osiris
Paradox
Rainbow
Scorpio
Seism
Serket
   
   1
   1
   1
   2 
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   2
   
   2
   1
   
   1
   1
   2
   
   2
   1
   1
   
   1
   
   
    5
    6
    2
    3
    1 
    4
    3
    3
    3
    3
    3
    5
    3
    3
    4
    4
    2
    3
    4
    4
    2
    6
    4
    6
    5
    3
    2
    3
    4
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
     
     
     1
     1
     1
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     1
     1
     
     
     
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     2
     
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Re: FG Efficiency Study - Applying statistics to all of the myths https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25609.msg390576#msg390576
« Reply #266 on: September 08, 2011, 03:54:18 am »
  deck     HG1&O   
  players     kirchj33   
  version    1.285 
  win-rate     34.51%   
  $ track ?    enabled 
  win-rate (n)     35.46%   
  games    142 
  Score/h     131   
  win-loss-(EM)     49-93-(0)   
  Score/h (n)    151   
  time (h:m:s)     05:50:45   
  FGei[c]* (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,14626.0.html  3282   
  min/game     02:28   
  FGei[cn]* (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,14626.0.html  3319   
      Statmasta™4000                                                                *assumed card-spin/win: 35%      
      
"
  score/h  FGei(c)   Statmasta™4000    wins losses skips EM/Wins
   169
   -1286
   -1353
   -913
   -1246
   655
   278
   107
   -149
   282
   -839
   711
   -429
   -386   
   -890
   1392
   -39
   -1251
   116
   450
   944
   751
   70
   188
   -48
   102
   797
   85
   1422
   4711
   -1286
   -1353
   1539
   -1246
   5288
   5147
   2478
   2794
   4213
   -839
   5347
   1469
   453   
   -890
   8564
   1898
   -1251
   2095
   4431
   5917
   5665
   2709
   2906
   1599
   3051
   6518
   2733
   8849
Akebono
Chaos Lord
Dark Matter
Decay
Destiny
Divine Glory
Dream Catcher
Elidnis
Eternal Phoenix
Ferox
Fire Queen
Gemini
Graviton
Hecate
Hermes
Incarnate
Jezebel
Lionheart
Miracle
Morte
Neptune
Obliterator
Octane
Osiris
Paradox
Rainbow
Scorpio
Seism
Serket
   1
   
   
   1
     
   5
   2
   1
   1
   3
   
   3
   1
   1
   
   4
   2
   
   1
   2
   5
   2
   1
   1
   1
   1
   5
   1
   4
    2
    3
    5
    7
    3 
    3
    4
    2
    3
    4
    3
    1
    5
    8
    5
   
    5
    10
    2
    2
    1
    1
    2
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    3
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I had a suspicion this version wasn't much better than Shakar's and this confirms it.

adrix89

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Re: FG Efficiency Study - Applying statistics to all of the myths https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25609.msg390602#msg390602
« Reply #267 on: September 08, 2011, 06:38:16 am »
kirchj33
Does a nightmare make that much difference for voodoo?

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Re: FG Efficiency Study - Applying statistics to all of the myths https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25609.msg390612#msg390612
« Reply #268 on: September 08, 2011, 07:41:03 am »
kirchj33
Does a nightmare make that much difference for voodoo?
Yep.  I believe it does.  When you play this deck, you will likely see > 2/3 of your deck every game.  The advantage of 3 voodoos is less clogging of your hand, outside of that, it is largely a dead card when you have more than one.  The functionality of nightmare is almost endless; shuts down double draw for a turn, wastes Decay's quanta, provides a small heal, gives finishing damage, etc.  I will be interested to see the results of the cloaked version when it is posted.

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Re: FG Efficiency Study - Applying statistics to all of the myths https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25609.msg390793#msg390793
« Reply #269 on: September 08, 2011, 07:36:14 pm »
Om nom nom :
  deck     Voodoo (zse&bucky version)   
  players     Jenkar   
  version    1.285 
  win-rate     47%   
  $ track ?    enabled 
  win-rate (n)     44,4%   
  games    200 
  Score/h     505   
  win-loss-(EM)     94-106-(3)   
  Score/h (n)    430   
  time (h:m:s)     07:59:17   
  FGei[c]* (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,14626.0.html  4941   
  min/game     02:24   
  FGei[cn]* (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,14626.0.html  4571   
      Statmasta™4000                                                                *assumed card-spin/win: 35%
  score/h  FGei(c)   Statmasta™4000    wins losses skips EM/Wins
   1427
   -318
   -684
   0
   -749
   -181
   181
   879
   1047
   826
   891
   191
   1274
   -439   
   -925
   717
   639
   -146
   1120
   485
   1470
   -269
   1045
   -750
   1592
   164
   341
   848
   -24
   9040
   1214
   353
   1562
   -749
   3065
   2910
   5963
   8476
   6057
   6454
   3662
   8053
   1503   
   -925
   5615
   5197
   1619
   7485
   5161
   8826
   2081
   7847
   -750
   9467
   3463
   4616
   6645
   3529
Akebono
Chaos Lord
Dark Matter
Decay
Destiny
Divine Glory
Dream Catcher
Elidnis
Eternal Phoenix
Ferox
Fire Queen
Gemini
Graviton
Hecate
Hermes
Incarnate
Jezebel
Lionheart
Miracle
Morte
Neptune
Obliterator
Octane
Osiris
Paradox
Rainbow
Scorpio
Seism
Serket
   11
   1
   1
   1
     
   1
   1
   4
   5
   8
   5
   3
   3
   1
   
   3
   4
   1
   6
   2
   9
   1
   4
   
   9
   3
   3
   2
   2
    3
    5
    11
    4
    7 
    3
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    5
   
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    8
    2
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    6
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Re: FG Efficiency Study - Applying statistics to all of the myths https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25609.msg391217#msg391217
« Reply #270 on: September 09, 2011, 02:29:19 pm »


Allright ... I have compiled all the samples from each and everyone of you
thus creating samples of 500-800 games for each of the top/most-played decks:

CCYB-slim, Mono-Aether, Rol/Hope (aka Turbospeed), Voodoo-Panic, LiquidAntimatter and VVV


Kirch has already rearranged the decks in the results-page in order of updated FGei(cn)s.


Coming up next:

Skip-stats!

These will feature the actual card-spin/drop-rates as extracted from those over 6000 games you all played!  :o

This means, if a god is especially greedy or generous with his cards, this will have an impact on the FGei(c)
against this god and consequently on the the overall FGei(c) and (cn) of the deck as well ... so a lot might still change!
These FGei-values will be as close the the actual gaming-experience as doable, in fact, so close that the
 only difference to the FGei(e) will be that random luck in card-spins is taken out of the equation.

With the FGei(c)s generated like this for each god, the skip-recommendations will be worked out and we will get:

The optimal, to be expected, performance of each deck when skipping the right gods ...  :D






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Re: FG Efficiency Study - Applying statistics to all of the myths https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25609.msg391225#msg391225
« Reply #271 on: September 09, 2011, 02:37:26 pm »
Skip-stats!
Noms. I have arranged an admin for my spreadsheet while i'm gone, so i hope it will eventually give you more accurate data for specefic god stats.
Also, excellent work.
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Re: FG Efficiency Study - Applying statistics to all of the myths https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25609.msg391234#msg391234
« Reply #272 on: September 09, 2011, 03:06:14 pm »
What deck is this?
Voodoo (zse&bucky version)

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Re: FG Efficiency Study - Applying statistics to all of the myths https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25609.msg391238#msg391238
« Reply #273 on: September 09, 2011, 03:12:39 pm »

Skip-stats!
Noms. I have arranged an admin for my spreadsheet while i'm gone, so i hope it will eventually give you more accurate data for specefic god stats.
Also, excellent work.
Yeah ... I was looking at that yesterday and at first I didn't really get it for its labeled a bit weird.

Could you perhaps install a cell for each god that displays the sum of all card-wins or better yet:

A percentage adhering to the formula:  cards won/games played x 100% = card-spin-rate    ??

Would be really nice to be able to compare the data from this study with it by just taking a glance at some numbers ...  ;)




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Re: FG Efficiency Study - Applying statistics to all of the myths https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25609.msg391240#msg391240
« Reply #274 on: September 09, 2011, 03:14:55 pm »
Oh, it's already on... as a fraction :P *puts as percentage somewhere*

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Re: FG Efficiency Study - Applying statistics to all of the myths https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25609.msg391242#msg391242
« Reply #275 on: September 09, 2011, 03:17:37 pm »

 

anything
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