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Re: theoretical individual FG card winning rate https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25609.msg381691#msg381691
« Reply #228 on: August 18, 2011, 04:25:18 pm »
EDIT: Woz wrong

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Re: FG Efficiency Study - Applying statistics to all of the myths https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25609.msg381721#msg381721
« Reply #229 on: August 18, 2011, 05:33:08 pm »
That was about the only part of his post that was correct... :-\
What you're looking for is not the probability to win one or more cards, it's the EV of three spins. For that you have to multiply the EV of one spin by 3.

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Re: FG Efficiency Study - Applying statistics to all of the myths https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25609.msg382022#msg382022
« Reply #230 on: August 19, 2011, 07:43:01 am »
That was about the only part of his post that was correct... :-\
What you're looking for is not the probability to win one or more cards, it's the EV of three spins. For that you have to multiply the EV of one spin by 3.
EV?

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Re: FG Efficiency Study - Applying statistics to all of the myths https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25609.msg382042#msg382042
« Reply #231 on: August 19, 2011, 08:55:06 am »
That was about the only part of his post that was correct... :-\
What you're looking for is not the probability to win one or more cards, it's the EV of three spins. For that you have to multiply the EV of one spin by 3.
EV?
Expected Value...At least that is EV in poker xD

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Re: FG Efficiency Study - Applying statistics to all of the myths https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25609.msg382114#msg382114
« Reply #232 on: August 19, 2011, 02:09:26 pm »
is this topic (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,20376.24.html) and the tabel in it maybe usefull for this deck?

(the topic has the average coin gain from each FG, so if a deck is very good against the FG's with high spinning rates it has a better FGei (?)

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Re: FG Efficiency Study - Applying statistics to all of the myths https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25609.msg382139#msg382139
« Reply #233 on: August 19, 2011, 03:51:02 pm »
is this topic (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,20376.24.html) and the tabel in it maybe usefull for this deck?

(the topic has the average coin gain from each FG, so if a deck is very good against the FG's with high spinning rates it has a better FGei (?)
Like I said, that table is wrong too most likely, I was able to verify Dark Weaver's calculation and they are correct for the spin mechanism given by him, but his drop rates don't seem to match with the drop rates observed in game and in trainer (at least for the testing I've done so far, feel free to try and check for yourself).

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Re: FG Efficiency Study - Applying statistics to all of the myths https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25609.msg382146#msg382146
« Reply #234 on: August 19, 2011, 04:13:35 pm »


Guess it's a good thing we will have empirical data on drop-rates which is based on more than
4000 games once the first round of this study is completed.  ;D

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Re: FG Efficiency Study - Applying statistics to all of the myths https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25609.msg382196#msg382196
« Reply #235 on: August 19, 2011, 06:17:42 pm »
Question: Both Gumbeh and Jenkar tested VVV, but the opening post only shows Jenkars stats. Arent you combining the stats? Or am I missing something here?

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Re: FG Efficiency Study - Applying statistics to all of the myths https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25609.msg382198#msg382198
« Reply #236 on: August 19, 2011, 06:19:29 pm »
Question: Both Gumbeh and Jenkar tested VVV, but the opening post only shows Jenkars stats. Arent you combining the stats? Or am I missing something here?
Gumbeh hasn't normalised stats yet :P
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Re: FG Efficiency Study - Applying statistics to all of the myths https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25609.msg382200#msg382200
« Reply #237 on: August 19, 2011, 06:20:03 pm »
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Re: FG Efficiency Study - Applying statistics to all of the myths https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25609.msg382202#msg382202
« Reply #238 on: August 19, 2011, 06:23:03 pm »
Kirch ish FGei killah!
You're just as selfish as I am. You're just not as good at it yet.

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Re: FG Efficiency Study - Applying statistics to all of the myths https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25609.msg382207#msg382207
« Reply #239 on: August 19, 2011, 06:49:34 pm »
Kirch ish FGei killah!
/cheer!

The crazy thing is, I had a better win rate & was only 9 seconds slower per game.

 

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