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whats the most efficient fg grinder? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38733.msg481855#msg481855
« on: April 16, 2012, 01:20:27 am »
theres soooo many decks for fgs. but now that theres 1.30 whats the most efficent?
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Re: whats the most efficient fg grinder? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38733.msg481861#msg481861
« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2012, 01:34:58 am »
Well, considering that 1.30 was only released a few days ago, there shouldn't be any concrete changes.  Well, besides LA against CC heavy decks like Octane.  I think I heard that there was an increased priority to remove AMd creatures...
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Re: whats the most efficient fg grinder? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38733.msg481899#msg481899
« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2012, 02:36:59 am »
Quote from: Drake_XIV on April 16, 2012, 01:34:58 am
Well, considering that 1.30 was only released a few days ago, there shouldn't be any concrete changes.  Well, besides LA against CC heavy decks like Octane.  I think I heard that there was an increased priority to remove AMd creatures...
I heard AI is more likely to target sundials.
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Re: whats the most efficient fg grinder? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38733.msg481900#msg481900
« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2012, 02:38:11 am »
Quote from: eaglgenes101 on April 16, 2012, 02:36:59 am
Quote from: Drake_XIV on April 16, 2012, 01:34:58 am
Well, considering that 1.30 was only released a few days ago, there shouldn't be any concrete changes.  Well, besides LA against CC heavy decks like Octane.  I think I heard that there was an increased priority to remove AMd creatures...
I heard AI is more likely to target sundials.
AI does target sundials over other permanents now. Not sure how that affects the previous two best FG killers. We need more tests!
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Re: whats the most efficient fg grinder? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38733.msg481901#msg481901
« Reply #4 on: April 16, 2012, 02:39:08 am »
Quote from: eaglgenes101 on April 16, 2012, 02:36:59 am
Quote from: Drake_XIV on April 16, 2012, 01:34:58 am
Well, considering that 1.30 was only released a few days ago, there shouldn't be any concrete changes.  Well, besides LA against CC heavy decks like Octane.  I think I heard that there was an increased priority to remove AMd creatures...
I heard AI is more likely to target sundials.

Yep. I don't know the specific details, but basically AI just makes sundial the top priority either when it's dealing enough damage or when your hp is too low (I'm not sure which one). This is actually a significant nerf to Instosis.
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Re: whats the most efficient fg grinder? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38733.msg481911#msg481911
« Reply #5 on: April 16, 2012, 02:51:55 am »
Poison dials SoSac also took a bit of a hit from that purify buff. It's small, though.
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Re: whats the most efficient fg grinder? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38733.msg481914#msg481914
« Reply #6 on: April 16, 2012, 02:53:14 am »
Quote from: eaglgenes101 on April 16, 2012, 02:51:55 am
Poison dials SoSac also took a bit of a hit from that purify buff. It's small, though.
Purify didn't hurt it for FG farming, since it already had trouble with FGs with purify. It's the fact that you can no longer guarantee a safe sundial just because you have arsenic out now.
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Re: whats the most efficient fg grinder? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38733.msg481935#msg481935
« Reply #7 on: April 16, 2012, 03:34:09 am »
Quote from: furballdn on April 16, 2012, 02:53:14 am
Quote from: eaglgenes101 on April 16, 2012, 02:51:55 am
Poison dials SoSac also took a bit of a hit from that purify buff. It's small, though.
Purify didn't hurt it for FG farming, since it already had trouble with FGs with purify. It's the fact that you can no longer guarantee a safe sundial just because you have arsenic out now.

This^ exactly. Instosis is also no longer viable, caused by the AI targeting Sundial (over Hourglass).
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Re: whats the most efficient fg grinder? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38733.msg481936#msg481936
« Reply #8 on: April 16, 2012, 03:37:56 am »
Make variant with Phase Shields instead?
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Re: whats the most efficient fg grinder? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38733.msg481996#msg481996
« Reply #9 on: April 16, 2012, 06:34:24 am »
With phase shields, you can fit in 2 max, but it would still probably work. 
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Re: whats the most efficient fg grinder? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38733.msg482056#msg482056
« Reply #10 on: April 16, 2012, 12:54:40 pm »
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Quote from: Drake_XIV on April 16, 2012, 01:34:58 am
Well, considering that 1.30 was only released a few days ago, there shouldn't be any concrete changes.  Well, besides LA against CC heavy decks like Octane.  I think I heard that there was an increased priority to remove AMd creatures...
I heard AI is more likely to target sundials.
so now poison dials and instosis isn't going to be efficient anymore?
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Re: whats the most efficient fg grinder? https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38733.msg482058#msg482058
« Reply #11 on: April 16, 2012, 01:08:22 pm »
Well, i use my own decks and they are still fine (not poison dial or intosis)
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