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Re: Volunteers for False God specific decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7178.msg78266#msg78266
« Reply #12 on: May 30, 2010, 08:19:34 pm »
For example, I am quite sure it is possible to defeat Incarnate with a completely unupgraded mono entropy deck.
Teach me, how do you defend against his rush, while keeping creatures out against his bloodsucker/plagues without using quint?

Have you ever played the nymphomania deck?  If so, you realize that Incarnate already has part of the combo built into his deck - vampires.  A deck with antimatters, dissipation shields, and a few dragons would most likely defeat him.  You don't need creatures out except for a few turns at the end.

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Re: Volunteers for False God specific decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7178.msg78275#msg78275
« Reply #13 on: May 30, 2010, 08:28:38 pm »
That deck can never win!

Proof:

You can deal maximum 10 damage/turn because you can eat maximum 10 Eagles Eyes.
(You can´t probably eat all and some of your Otys are destroyed but that doesn´t matter for the estimation)
And you would need more than 20 turns to kill a 200HP opponent.(Probably even more than 30)

In 71% of all cases, your opponent has an Eagles Eye in the starting hand. If he plays Animate weapon only if he has a second weapon, you are dead after < 15 turns. 15<20.

I made a deck suggestion in the forum part for Octane.

Side Note: Octane doesn´t use the Gas, if you have a Reflective Shield.
okay i assumed he would still use the gasses like an idiot

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Re: Volunteers for False God specific decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7178.msg78278#msg78278
« Reply #14 on: May 30, 2010, 08:29:36 pm »
For example, I am quite sure it is possible to defeat Incarnate with a completely unupgraded mono entropy deck.
Teach me, how do you defend against his rush, while keeping creatures out against his bloodsucker/plagues without using quint?

Have you ever played the nymphomania deck?  If so, you realize that Incarnate already has part of the combo built into his deck - vampires.  A deck with antimatters, dissipation shields, and a few dragons would most likely defeat him.  You don't need creatures out except for a few turns at the end.
Please, build it and show me
If you dont play fields, you get out rushed, if you play fields, you loose quanta like crazy

I suppose if you put in 6 sog, its a different story

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Re: Volunteers for False God specific decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7178.msg78333#msg78333
« Reply #15 on: May 30, 2010, 10:00:44 pm »

Teach me, how do you defend against his rush, while keeping creatures out against his bloodsucker/plagues without using quint?

I really dont see the point of a deck trying to beat 1 or 2 gods regardless...

With a completely unupgraded deck.  I put in a discord, which proved to be a worthless waste of quanta.  However this was the deck that almost got an EM versus Incarnate:

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Re: Volunteers for False God specific decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7178.msg78338#msg78338
« Reply #16 on: May 30, 2010, 10:10:17 pm »
Trainer?

He is definitely acting weird there
The AI is suppose to infect and kill his own vampire if its antimattered...

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Re: Volunteers for False God specific decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7178.msg78349#msg78349
« Reply #17 on: May 30, 2010, 10:28:04 pm »
I have done it in the real game as well.  If indeed this was in the most recent patch, I am unaware of it.  My randomizer has not let me face Incarnate in quite some time. 

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Re: Volunteers for False God specific decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7178.msg78351#msg78351
« Reply #18 on: May 30, 2010, 10:30:23 pm »
You got me there, but i believe, or at one point i am most certain anything antimattered the AI will try to kill it/change it, so its bloodsucker should infect it and just let it die

I once antimatter a 1|4 mutant with destory to -1|4, the AI still killed infected it and let it die, while destorying my things lol
Just an example...

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Re: Volunteers for False God specific decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7178.msg78354#msg78354
« Reply #19 on: May 30, 2010, 10:34:59 pm »
I am not completely sure as to how the ai decides to target things, I know for a fact chaos lord will mutate anything you antimatter, however I have never had Incarnate poison his own creatures to kill off the antimatter.   I was just showing that it is indeed possible to win with an unupgraded deck.

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Re: Volunteers for False God specific decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7178.msg78437#msg78437
« Reply #20 on: May 31, 2010, 02:19:16 am »
its not a deck but any deck that can get out an emerald/ jade shiled (whatever is upped) can beat decay easily

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Re: Volunteers for False God specific decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7178.msg78478#msg78478
« Reply #21 on: May 31, 2010, 03:57:58 am »
its not a deck but any deck that can get out an emerald/ jade shiled (whatever is upped) can beat decay easily
I wouldn't say any unless you have enough cards to avoid decking out from Decay in the process.  :)

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Re: Volunteers for False God specific decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7178.msg78537#msg78537
« Reply #22 on: May 31, 2010, 05:21:42 am »
I have never seen the AI target its own antimattered creatures with infection. Sure, it will mutate or eat them, but I haven't seen infection.

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Re: Volunteers for False God specific decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7178.msg78555#msg78555
« Reply #23 on: May 31, 2010, 06:36:50 am »
I have never seen the AI target its own antimattered creatures with infection. Sure, it will mutate or eat them, but I haven't seen infection.
I did seen it once or twice it infect itself, but sometimes it doesnt.
Unless it only use a mutant's ablitiy to infect it

Say creature A and B
A is mutated with ablitiy infection
B is antimattered

I seen A infect B to kill it

 

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