Outrageous claims.

[Toge111]

Why on earth are deck creators making such outrageous claims of their decks' competence? Just how many times I've seen some deck with no upped cards labeled "FG farmer". Excuse me? 'Farming' is monotonous repetition of easy steps to achieve some goal associated with winning. If the deck needs to get some really lucky draw on both your hand and FG's hand in order to win, it's no farming. If the deck loses nine times out of ten, you're not gaining money there. You're losing it. Stop saying deck is made for farming when it obviously isn't capable of it. 

"I tried it once in trainer and won."

[RootRanger]

While some people call bad decks "FG farmers", it is possible for an unupped deck to do have a good winning percentage. Liquid antimatter reaches 18% and it wins are fast. All dolled down reaches 24%. They would both be better for electrum than an unupped deck against another AI.

[ggabriel2]

Why on earth are deck creators making such outrageous claims of their decks' competence? Just how many times I've seen some deck with no upped cards labeled "FG farmer". Excuse me? 'Farming' is monotonous repetition of easy steps to achieve some goal associated with winning. If the deck needs to get some really lucky draw on both your hand and FG's hand in order to win, it's no farming. If the deck loses nine times out of ten, you're not gaining money there. You're losing it. Stop saying deck is made for farming when it obviously isn't capable of it. 

"I tried it once in trainer and won."

If you lose to FGs 9 times out of 10, you are making money due to card drops. Nine losses costs you 270 gold, and even the least lucrative FGs have an expected payout of 450+ gold after card sales. And if you're using an unupped deck with a low winrate, you're probably picking fights against the most easily exploited FGs, those with one-dimensional decks that are easier to get cards from, so you're earning more like 600 gold per win on average. That means you're earning at least 300 or so gold every 10 games in the long run, and since you're probably forfeiting outright against most gods you're getting through 10 games in maybe a little over 10 minutes. Your 10% winrate farmer can still easily pull 1000+ gold per hour. Not great, but not terrible.

You are, of course, going to absolutely murder your score and W/L record. It doesn't take too long to earn enough money to get some upgrades and stop hemorrhaging score, but if you care strongly about your record you should probably stick to farming AI3 until you get enough money for a better deck with some upgrades. You're going to need a fat bankroll anyhow, since a 10% winrate deck is very vulnerable to streaks; sometimes you'll get 5 cards in 20 minutes, sometimes you'll burn through a couple thousand gold worth of losses in between card drops.

[digitalevil1]

I get what you mean :p
I've never really managed to maintain as high a win percentage as most people claim their decks to have, but I do find that my win percentages does increase a little bit if the deck takes a while to get used to.

[Selvaria]

Why on earth are deck creators making such outrageous claims of their decks' competence? Just how many times I've seen some deck with no upped cards labeled "FG farmer". Excuse me? 'Farming' is monotonous repetition of easy steps to achieve some goal associated with winning. If the deck needs to get some really lucky draw on both your hand and FG's hand in order to win, it's no farming. If the deck loses nine times out of ten, you're not gaining money there. You're losing it. Stop saying deck is made for farming when it obviously isn't capable of it. 

"I tried it once in trainer and won."

Ok. This is what I think.

First: You have to know how to use the said deck properly. Alot of the times the "farmer" have no idea how to play the cards properly (i.e. timing). E.g. how to force AI to steal your hourglasses instead, when to chain phase shields. Exploiting the AI weakness is a must.

Second: You have to know which specific FG to skip. Playing against Rainbow again and again with unupped deck are probably waste of time.

Third: It is partially luck. E.g. Some people go on an on about 20 wins without card spin, luck is important.

Fourth: If you think a farming deck don't work you have to tell the author why it doesn't work. E.g. your farming deck don't work because it doesn't have enough damage sources and I will get decked out.  A good explanation is better instead of just saying it doesn't work for me I keep losing.

[digitalevil1]

Ok. This is what I think.

First: You have to know how to use the said deck properly. Alot of the times the "farmer" have no idea how to play the cards properly (i.e. timing). E.g. how to force AI to steal your hourglasses instead, when to chain phase shields. Exploiting the AI weakness is a must.

Second: You have to know which specific FG to skip. Playing against Rainbow again and again with unupped deck are probably waste of time.

Third: It is partially luck. E.g. Some people go on an on about 20 wins without card spin, luck is important.

Fourth: If you think a farming deck don't work you have to tell the author why it doesn't work. E.g. your farming deck don't work because it doesn't have enough damage sources and I will get decked out.  A good explanation is better instead of just saying it doesn't work for me I keep losing.

Very true also if you post on their deck's thread, 9 times out of 10 they can tell you what you're doing wrong

[Apexus]

While it's true that some will misplay a deck and get poor results its also true that some report great winning percentages before fully testing their decks.  All decks face hot and cold streaks.  If you come up with a great idea for a deck and then go on a streak while testing it, you will assume that you are brilliant and want to share the news.  It's just human nature.  If your just starting out like myself and electrum is at a premium then you may want to stick to decks that are well established and thoroughly tested to be safe.

[rosutosefi]

The FG farmer decks need a lot of experience for you to play it right. For example, Liquid Antimatter will lose a lot to Akebono if you won't study the AI (proirity for Overdrive, Chimera timing, etc.) which is why it's bad for starters to farm FG's immediately with completely unupped speed decks. Try using a rainbow first to master the AI (I used SGbow when I started) then you can move to speed decks once you learn the AI. Or save some (around 1k) electrum first then use the deck just to study the AI. Pretty soon you'll start earning loads of cash from these decks. Using Liquid Antimatter, I earned 7k electrum in my newly created account in 1 day.

[n00b]

You are, of course, going to absolutely murder your score and W/L record. It doesn't take too long to earn enough money to get some upgrades and stop hemorrhaging score, but if you care strongly about your record you should probably stick to farming AI3 until you get enough money for a better deck with some upgrades. You're going to need a fat bankroll anyhow, since a 10% winrate deck is very vulnerable to streaks; sometimes you'll get 5 cards in 20 minutes, sometimes you'll burn through a couple thousand gold worth of losses in between card drops.

I can vouch for that... I brought my rating from about 4k down to -2.5k... from like 500-100 to 650-610... gonna just grind some Ai3s now to get it back up, but I gotta long road ahead of me. But I did make quite a bit on upgraded cards...